Is Alison Redford 'Stelmach, the sequel'?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

There have been a heck of a lot more Alison Redford temper tantrums played out publicly lately than there have been Danielle Smith temper tantrums. Do you watch the news?

It is actually funny that you ask if I watch the news, and I will say no, I don't watch the news. Sitting down in front of a TV and spending 30-60 minutes and get the details on 2 or 3 stories that interest me seemed to be about as idiotic as using a lawnmower to shave your testicles. I can do the same thing in 5 minutes online, normally about 4-8 hours earlier in the day. If you want, I can call my grandpa and get him to tell me what was on, if you really think it will help.

As for my post, I wasn't trying to say anything about Redford. I am pretty sure it has all been said in these past couple weeks, so I didn't think it was worth repeating.

My opinion, since you asked, is that Redford isnt doing herself any favors by the errors she is making. I think Smith would do better in her appeal to the more moderate population if the party seemed more like an actual opposition party than a pack of rabid wolves randomly tearing at a carcass, looking for their piece of meat.

If the WRP can come across as 'less crazy' then they have a chance to take the next election, but right now I am not getting that impression from them. I will admit that the problem isn't so much that they are not doing anything right, but they are doing enough distasteful things that kind of drown it out, kind of like Redford.

[Jacks]

The defending of Redford on here is pretty lame.

Why don't the WRP concentrate on policy instead of scandal? well if the PC's could go a friggin week without scandal we'd find out!

Seriously, you people are comical, if Redford wasn't a complete and total Liberal there would be outrage from the left.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by SebC

If you accept the premise that there's only so much press time you're going to get, then it's a matter of priorities.

Don't go after the WRP for doing what voters expect them to do. You seem to have a problem with media coverage and I would suggest you go after them.

Ultimately it's voters who hold the government accountable, and if you don't present a substantial and desirable alternative then it doesn't really matter what scandals there may be.

I've been scanning the readers comments that get posted in Albertas newspapers, the Sun, Herald and the Journal. All have a spaces under each article where one can sign up and post comments. Albertans are angry with the Redford government and the sense of entitlement. Add in the spending scandals and the ever growing debt, Redford is badly losing in the poll of public opinion. The preception is that the PC's are a corrupt govt and Redford can't be trusted with what she says.

If voters do respond to the scandals and elect a group that doesn't have sound policies, well that's a cure that's worse than the disease.

You sound like the woman in an abusive relationship. She won't leave because the fear of the unknown is worse than the situation she's in. Sometimes you need to face the unknown and give it a chance before you write it off as being a worse situation.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Jacks

The defending of Redford on here is pretty lame.

Why don't the WRP concentrate on policy instead of scandal? well if the PC's could go a friggin week without scandal we'd find out!

Seriously, you people are comical, if Redford wasn't a complete and total Liberal there would be outrage from the left.

I'm not defending her. She deserves to go. It's just too bad the wildrose doesn't have a leader at this time who can handle leading the province. The Conservatives could run Rob Anders next election and win, if Smith is still in charge of the WRP/

[1stLand]

I am a Wildrose supporter, but is it just me or is Redford Sexy as *ell when she gets mad?

My oh my. I loved seeing her seething with Rage in Question Period.
It makes me almost want to vote for her party next election.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I am a Wildrose supporter, but is it just me or is Redford Sexy as *ell when she gets mad?

My oh my. I loved seeing her seething with Rage in Question Period.
It makes me almost want to vote for her party next election.

no

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I am a Wildrose supporter, but is it just me or is Redford Sexy as *ell when she gets mad?

My oh my. I loved seeing her seething with Rage in Question Period.
It makes me almost want to vote for her party next election.

My genitalia just retreated inside of me. Thanks, bro.

[monkeyman]

Ed was a good honest man. I believe he was undermined by people in the party who wanted him out, who would do anything to further their own interests. Before Ed's, before the PC party's, and definitely before the interests of average Albertans. The new PCs will do whatever they want with the knowledge, no matter what they do, come election time, Albertans will be to afraid of change and vote them back in. Rob Anders anyone?

I voted PC for the last 20 years prior to Redford. I just can't support the lies, corruption and denials along with the policies that are threatening the lives and future of all Albertans.
Unfortunately, it's going to be too late before most people in Alberta will see it and some will never admit it. by then, well be in debt, paying off the policies of today's government and paying nice rich pensions to all those who sold us down the river. And there will be nothing we can do.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Jacks

The defending of Redford on here is pretty lame.

Why don't the WRP concentrate on policy instead of scandal? well if the PC's could go a friggin week without scandal we'd find out!

Seriously, you people are comical, if Redford wasn't a complete and total Liberal there would be outrage from the left.

I assume that drive by was directed at me even though you didn't quote me. Not that it really matters but I'm not left wing... which people seem to get accused of anytime they criticize the tea baggers or their canadian cousins. Just am not at either extreme of the spectrum.. Although I guess the bottom line for the right version of the wingnuts is if you're not with em you must be one kind of commie or another.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Stelmach was just quietly incompetent, Redford is willing to compromise the future of this province in order to further the bank accounts of herself, her family, and her friends. And god forbid anyone actually trying to hold her accountable for her actions.

[Rathji]

Wait, even if Redford did use her influence to line the pockets of her ex, how would that have compromised the future of the province? If she did it, as it looks like she did, then it reflects poorly upon her, but I don't see how the province is hurt by in in a 'compromise our future' kind of way.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Matty81

I assume that drive by was directed at me even though you didn't quote me. Not that it really matters but I'm not left wing... which people seem to get accused of anytime they criticize the tea baggers or their canadian cousins. Just am not at either extreme of the spectrum.. Although I guess the bottom line for the right version of the wingnuts is if you're not with em you must be one kind of commie or another.

Actually I wasn't thinking of you at all but thanks for the insults anyway.

[Matty81]

The government should be held to account, particularly the tobacco issue needs further investigation, but you lose credibility and people just sort of tune you out when you play boy who cries wolf and every week it's a new scandal that the Post/Sun/Reform-WildRose are frothing at the mouth about. Especially the Trudeau comments about Albertans circa 3 years ago and the Redfords sister wastes money stories have really zero impact on people and their everyday concerns we pay them to improve - they are focused on improving their own careers and political gamesmanship.

Probably the dippers and the libs would be just as bad if they had news organizations with an editorial mandate to support just their party, I certainly don't think everybody in those parties is committed to positive politics either.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Actually I wasn't thinking of you at all but thanks for the insults anyway.

Stand by the sentiment but ya wingnuts comment was out of line in retrospect... apologies for that.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Wait, even if Redford did use her influence to line the pockets of her ex, how would that have compromised the future of the province? If she did it, as it looks like she did, then it reflects poorly upon her, but I don't see how the province is hurt by in in a 'compromise our future' kind of way.

We've already got a 3 billion dollar deficit thanks to her bs budget. And where is that spending coming from? Her promises of money to whoever is needed to keep herself in power. That is what is compromising the future of this province.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Dion

Don't go after the WRP for doing what voters expect them to do. You seem to have a problem with media coverage and I would suggest you go after them.

If you don't think the opposition can shape media coverage...

It isn't just media coverage though. First Lady provided a link that featured their policies, and I found it lacking.

Originally Posted by Dion

I've been scanning the readers comments that get posted in Albertas newspapers, the Sun, Herald and the Journal. All have a spaces under each article where one can sign up and post comments. Albertans are angry with the Redford government and the sense of entitlement. Add in the spending scandals and the ever growing debt, Redford is badly losing in the poll of public opinion. The preception is that the PC's are a corrupt govt and Redford can't be trusted with what she says.

If newspaper commenters were a represenatitive sample, we'd all be in a lot of trouble.

Originally Posted by Dion

You sound like the woman in an abusive relationship. She won't leave because the fear of the unknown is worse than the situation she's in. Sometimes you need to face the unknown and give it a chance before you write it off as being a worse situation.

Unlike you, I believe we can predict people's performances (at least in terms of good government, electability may be a bit harder to predict) with reasonable certainty. Just because something hasn't been tried doesn't mean we can't make an educated guess how it would go.

Any government that's in power long enough is going to have scandals and some degree of curruption. Put the Wildrose in power and you will continue to see scandals. But we're talking about really small amounts of money here compared to the damage that could be done by bad policies (or lack of policy).

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

We've already got a 3 billion dollar deficit thanks to her bs budget. And where is that spending coming from? Her promises of money to whoever is needed to keep herself in power. That is what is compromising the future of this province.

Do you think that her promises of money were what got her elected? I am sure it didn't have anything to do with the image the party she was running against developed through the campaign.

If that's your only concern then I am a lit less worried about that than I am about potential corruption.

[CaptainCrunch]

Except that one of Redford key platform was budget numbers based on a lie.

then she tabled a budget once in power based on shakey figures.

Her economic policies are looking disastrous. Her excuse about the natural resource numbers being a factor are ridiculous our neighbors to the East who have a natural resource base similar to ours managed to balance the budget.

Maybe Redford isn't corrupt and dishonest, maybe she's semi-######ed, nobody can be this bad on purpose both in governing and in terms of integrity.

[Clarkey]

I can only tolerate my male politicians being butt ugly.