Predict The US Election 2012

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

People keep forgetting the one reason Mitt will be awful for Canada...he (biggest donor is Sheldon Adelson, hardcore Israel supporter) and his party in particular are very much ready for war with Iran. The CPC, and Harper in particular, would love to go send our soldiers to fight for Israel (we would have gone to Iraq had they had power then). So a Mitt victory ensures our participation in a war that will ultimately be a waste of lives and resources. I think Obama is less likely to go on a pre-emptive war unlike the chickenhawks of the Republican party, who I would assume will be going to war on Day 1 (since Romney plans on doing everything short of curing cancer on Day 1).

If Israel goes to war with Iran, Obama won't hesitate to send the troops in. The neocons still run the Pentagon.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Good, I'm fine with Harper saying that he would fight for Israel, I don't know what we could really add beyond planes and logistical transport planes.

If Israel is actually attacked by Iran then go fight for them they are an ally. Beyond that didn't Harper also state that he was more interested in a diplomatic solution through global pressure on Iran. He didn't stand up and make a war hawk speech.

Kinda hard to be a war hawk when Iran's military would crush ours. In a one-on-one matchup, it'd be pretty embarassing. But with the help of the big brother (help...do everything, same thing) it's a different ballgame. The endgame is pre-emptive war though, not war after Israel gets attacked. Of course diplomacy is preferred...but then you can look at Iraq, the most obviously doppleganger here (unjustified pre-emptive war), and wonder how seriously will they try and make diplomacy the preferred method? A UN resolution again isn't going to happen (Russia and China will block), so I think diplomacy will be a very short lived option. Force is unfortunetly the end game for a Romney presidency.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

If Israel goes to war with Iran, Obama won't hesitate to send the troops in. The neocons still run the Pentagon.

We agree on this one, though I believe Obama will try harder to avoid the war than Romney. But once Israel says they're going whoever the US President is will almost certainly support it militarily.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Kinda hard to be a war hawk when Iran's military would crush ours. In a one-on-one matchup, it'd be pretty embarassing. .

Are you basing this on numbers or ability?

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Are you basing this on numbers or ability?

I'm assuming he means numerically. Iran has over 2 million regular and reserve troops compared to less than 100,000 in the Canadian Forces.

[seattleflamer]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But once Israel says they're going whoever the US President is will almost certainly support it militarily.

To your point, it sounds like Bibi knows who's going to win the election after being asked whether Israel would attack Iran alone.

“When David Ben-Gurion declared the foundation of the state of Israel, was it done with American approval?” Mr. Netanyahu asked in an interview broadcast on Israel’s Channel 2 on Monday night. “When Levi Eshkol was forced to act in order to loosen the siege before 1967, was it done with the Americans’ support?

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[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

If you have any inkling that Romney is going to weaken the buying power of the US middle class, then you are weakening the greatest consumer of Canadian exports.

Yes there would be an immediate boon to the energy industry, but long term I'm not convinced it would be the best for Canada. As the American economy goes we go to a fairly large extent.

Except that Canada is looking to be not so dependent on the US. Trade deals with China and the EU for example.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Kinda hard to be a war hawk when Iran's military would crush ours. In a one-on-one matchup, it'd be pretty embarassing. But with the help of the big brother (help...do everything, same thing) it's a different ballgame. The endgame is pre-emptive war though, not war after Israel gets attacked. Of course diplomacy is preferred...but then you can look at Iraq, the most obviously doppleganger here (unjustified pre-emptive war), and wonder how seriously will they try and make diplomacy the preferred method? A UN resolution again isn't going to happen (Russia and China will block), so I think diplomacy will be a very short lived option. Force is unfortunetly the end game for a Romney presidency.



We agree on this one, though I believe Obama will try harder to avoid the war than Romney. But once Israel says they're going whoever the US President is will almost certainly support it militarily.

[jtfrogger]

Here are my guesses:

Obama: Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Oregon, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire

Romney: Montana, North Carolina

This would end up being a huge lead for Obama. It is probably unlikely, but it is my guess anyway.

I've also just entered these picks in the Sun News contest.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by jtfrogger

I've also just entered these picks in the Sun News contest.

Too bad I can't watch Ezra Levant cry on TV anymore.

[Gozer]

I didn't play the "pick the state" game, partly because I find polls and the horse-race element of politics to be uninteresting...but I will pat myself on the back for predicting (and never retracting or hedging) the winner a year ago.

Originally Posted by Gozer

In my eyes, Obama is a lock. He's a very effective campaigner.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Obama - Nevada, New Mexico Colorado Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida Maine and Nebraska's single electoral vote that might be available and finally a shocker Arizona

Romney - Crying in his non caffeinated soda

Well. I was wrong on NC, Nebraska and Arizona, but not with the crying in his non caffeinated soda.

Nice.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm glad I was horribly wrong. Thanks for proving me wrong America.

[HELPNEEDED]

I'm happy that the Ameircuns actually knew who was better for them.

[ae118]

I'm happy with the result and sort of sad we don't get Fox. Just for that night though.

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by jtfrogger

Here are my guesses:

Obama: Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Oregon, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire

Romney: Montana, North Carolina

This would end up being a huge lead for Obama. It is probably unlikely, but it is my guess anyway.

I've also just entered these picks in the Sun News contest.

I got my prize pack from Sun News today.

Sun News: I lower my expectations, and yet you still fail to meet them. They paid more for postage than for the entire prize pack.

[Jacks]

Wow, nice prize pack


Amazed that Christmas ball made it.

[Daradon]

Oh God... That's a prize?

'Please advertise for us!'