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I'm not sure if it was the hype and expectation, but I was quite disappointed with the film. I don't understand the 'Best Bond Ever' reviews. It dragged on way too long and I was very surprised that the monumental plot device was simply 'revenge'. I expect more from the Bond franchise so having only two action sequences of note, it didn't even feel like a very good action movie if that's what they were going for.
I was hoping for another 'Casino Royale' but it looks like they won't be able to recapture that magic.
I don't get out to many movies, so this was a treat for me. Really enjoyed it.
Two things that I now want to do:
1)Swim in that pool on top of Shanghai - or at the very least, visit Shanghai;
2)Buy some nice Tom Ford designed clothes.
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I don't know how to post that 'spoiler' tag so I'll make general comments.
I'm not sure if it was the hype and expectation, but I was quite disappointed with the film. I don't understand the 'Best Bond Ever' reviews. It dragged on way too long and I was very surprised that the monumental plot device was simply 'revenge'. I expect more from the Bond franchise so having only two action sequences of note, it didn't even feel like a very good action movie if that's what they were going for.
I was hoping for another 'Casino Royale' but it looks like they won't be able to recapture that magic.
Only two action sequences?
The opening chase was great, then there was the fight scene in the skyscraper which was wonderfully shot. The fight in the casino with the Komodo wasn't great but the subway chase scene was good and the final fight was a great finale.
Whether not you liked it, that's your call but saying there was only two action sequences is just wrong.
The opening chase was great, then there was the fight scene in the skyscraper which was wonderfully shot. The fight in the casino with the Komodo wasn't great but the subway chase scene was good and the final fight was a great finale.
Whether not you liked it, that's your call but saying there was only two action sequences is just wrong.
Not really. There were two big action sequences, the beginning and the end. There was nothing in the middle other than a couple fights. The silhouette fight was amazing though.
The climax action scene wasn't even that creative, dare I say it was even boring (until the end of it).
There was a good 45-60 minutes (until Silva is introduced and then another 15 after he is captured) where its all plot (not even that interesting either in my opinion).
Something else that my friend pointed out that I totally agree with is
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the scene where Silva escapes and goes after M and the movie splits between him and M giving her speech, is textbook Christopher Nolan.
I liked the movie and while it wasn't Prometheus levels of disappointment I'd only give it a 7/10. Maybe it's just because it had all the hype so I was expecting brilliance and I didn't get that. The script was just lacking.
Like seriously, the plot is
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Silva can hack into basically any system he wants. He does that, get's M's attention, gets captured by MI6 so he can get M, and explains to M that this is all revenge to kill her because his teeth are all fated up and because he didn't die? Though for the first hour of the movie you deal with Bond getting back in shape and Silva isn't even introduced until the 1hr to 1hr 15 minute mark, so you really have two movies in one.
I don't know, the more I think about this movie the more I find to complain about or find things that I didn't like. I'll definitely re-watch it though, but my initial thoughts are the film wasn't nearly as good as people say it is.
Also, as much as people or the studio may say this is a "Bond Resurrection" film, this is really an M film. Judi Dench is an amazing M so I don't toally mind that though.
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Being a life long Bond fan i wasn't expecting much since the last 3,4 Bond films have been just glimmer of how good Bond movies used to be.
You could take all the best parts of those movies combined and wouldn't equal how good Skyfall is. Bond imo was finally enjoyable again.
The franchise got back to a ruthless sinister villain and Javier Bardem was outstanding.
I would rank Skyfall in my top 10 Bond films I thought it was that good.
Without giving anything away I am a big fan of how this film ended and the direction they are taking for casting.
I am going to see this Bond movie again no doubt about it.
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I saw the movie yesterday and was pretty entertaining. Definitely a step up form Quantum of Solace.....although I may still prefer Casino Royale.
Love the nods to some of the classic Bond elements from the past....especially DB5 (although it's last scene was a little heartbreaking....I'm glad Bond got extra mad for that).
Btw, I'm continually amazed how some people can take their 6-7 year olds to see a movie like this. Maybe this is me getting old, but I don't think seeing 50 people get killed in different ways is something a child of that age should get exposed to.
Yet I'm sure if one of the Bond girls ever showed a nipple, parents everywhere would be up in arms.
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Saw it last night. I’m agreeing with the general sentiment here in saying that the characters were strong but the story was ultimately weak. Still better then Quantum of Solace but nowhere near the level of Casino Royale. You could really sense Sam Mendes influence in the direction, which to me didn’t seem to fit at all times. What I loved about Casino Royale was pretty much summed up in the below scene, and the gritty multi-dimensional bond seemed absent in Skyfall, save about 30 seconds which to me was forced.
^^^I see what you're saying about the above scene. That was very strong. But part of the reason we won't see a side like that again was because of what Vesper did to him. He's not one to bond with a woman like that again. She scarred that side of him and we won't ever see it again.
As much as Casino Royale was amazing as a spy movie, it was also a great story of love and ultimate betrayal. Bond won't fall in love again, so scenes like the above are probably a thing of the past, so expectations should adjust as well.
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It's a love or hate it kind of movie to me, and I hated it. Bond in my eyes is bravado and swagger mixed with toughness and intelligence but that's not what this movie is.
It tried to change the series by actually progressing the bond story but it did it in a way that I found very wanting. The Bond girls delivered their lines with such ridiculous insincerity that I cringed when the black girl talked (no name to not spoil anything). Bond seemed like a weak, old unintelligent relic. I'm all for stories of redemption but it didn't do that in my eyes at all. A real redemption would have been restoring Bond to his iconic status of invincible womanizer that shrugs off danger like a boss, but this new movie he seemed like he was a week away from getting a desk job. It should have been Bond standing strong behind the bad guy and there's flames blazing, Bond has that look of don't eff with me in his eyes while a Bond girl clamors at his side. That would have been the proper redemption for a movie like this.
The perfect Bond movie is Casino Royale. What Skyfall really lacked more than anything was iconic set pieces that so often go hand in hand with Bond films; giant satellites, Bond scaling skyscrapers, evil henchman laser labs, island fortresses, casinos filled with rich fatcats and what not. Skyfall had none of that, there was an abandoned island, a small asian casino with an std infused child slave and tunnels all with the awsome brown and gray pallet that it is so pleasing to the eye. Bond isn't supposed to be a moving analysis of character, it's supposed to be hollywood cinema that pulls of bravado and machismo with class. When a franchise like Bond moves beyond its roots it loses what made it good in the first place, of course this is my opinion only and I'm sure some people loved it. I give it 5.5/10. Future iterations hopefully have better pacing and set pieces because future iterations is most definitely what Skyfall set up, it was at best a transition movie.
also:
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did anyone think "I hope he's got a condom" when he snuck into the shower?
Saw it yesterday and loved it. I thought it really brought bond back to its roots with the style of the film and how bond is portrayed himself. The scene on the train when he hops on an fixes his cuff is classic. The simplicity of his present from Q. The car and the guns in the car. Just classic. Nothin too hokey but a little bit of camp for good measure. Bardem was awesome
Some great scenes, good characters, weak story. Wasted a good villian, sorta. I really don't know how to sum up what I think about this one. I enjoyed it, but was disapointed at the same time. Kinda like bad sex.
I actually liked Quantum, the continuation of the story from Casino. I had hoped for a connection in this one, and that Skyfall was actually some evil Quantum plot rather than a piece of Bond's past.
Seriously thought they could have done better with the fall off the bridge, way to unbelievable. head first unconsious? People jump off bridges to kill themselves, quite effectively, and we're supposed to buy that?
At least they will have another go, with the intro of some potentially good characters.
As someone who has always found the Bond movies to be flat (kind of like a Tom Clancy novel), this was probably my favorite Bond flick. It could have used more of a sense of fun, but otherwise was more "British" in style than the other Daniel Craig Bond movies.
As a non-Bond fan, I'd give it a solid 8.
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One line I thought they missed out on, and that would have added some fun to the script, was when Q gave Bond his gun and radio, and said something to the effect of "We don't go in for things like exploding pens anymore," then got up to walk away.
I was expecting him to turn back and say: "There's just one more thing. Here's your exploding pen."
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I don't really follow the series all that close though I've seen a handful of the movies. I saw Skyfall and I liked it.
Question, though, for Bond aficionados. Wasn't Casino Royale kind of like a James Bond "reboot" of sorts? If that's the case, didn't it seem odd that two movies into the reboot they're talking about how Bond is old and has lost it and technology has passed him by, etc.?
I might be wrong but that's what I took out of it.
just got back from the show. mixed emotions about it, lot i liked and a lot i didn't. but i have to say that intro and theme song is top 5 for best all-time Bond movies. Adele absolutely nailed it
