Final Death Row Statements

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I think we live in different worlds. I try to follow the golden rule because I feel it is right. You can have a philosophical discussion with someone else, I don't believe in philosophy.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Iginla

Lol I hope you realize that death row inmates cost us a whole lot more than a regular inmate would.

Putting them to death costs the system a whole lot more with the multiple appeals they use.

Time to get rid of the appeals and reduce those costs.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by moon

Time to get rid of the appeals and reduce those costs.

You can't be serious. We're talking about state sanctioned murder, and you want to open the door to even more innocent people being killed?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

and what does that mean?

[moon]

Originally Posted by valo403

You can't be serious. We're talking about state sanctioned murder, and you want to open the door to even more innocent people being killed?

That was said tongue in cheek but criminals do seem to get way too many appeals/drawn out appeal process in my opinion.

State sanctioned murder is also a ridiculous term.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Thor

yet the only nations that still do are a very nationalistic USA and theocracies.

Unless sclitheroe and wikipedia are wrong this is not true at all.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by moon

That was said tongue in cheek but criminals do seem to get way too many appeals/drawn out appeal process in my opinion.

State sanctioned murder is also a ridiculous term.

You can't "get away with" an appeal. If you have legal grounds upon which to appeal you have a right to do so, you don't get to just stomp your feet and get a new trial because you didn't like the result. The grounds for an appeal are extremely limited.

[moon]

Originally Posted by valo403

You can't "get away with" an appeal. If you have legal grounds upon which to appeal you have a right to do so, you don't get to just stomp your feet and get a new trial because you didn't like the result. The grounds for an appeal are extremely limited.

I don't think I said get away. I said they get way too many as in the grounds are not limited enough based on what I have read in regards to the grounds of some appeals.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by moon

I don't think I said get away. I said they get way too many as in the grounds are not limited enough based on what I have read in regards to the grounds of some appeals.

My mistake there, I misread. Regardless, I'm not sure what you have read, but the grounds for an appeal are incredibly limited. Appeals can only be brought for errors in the application of the law, you can't argue facts.

[moon]

Originally Posted by valo403

My mistake there, I misread. Regardless, I'm not sure what you have read, but the grounds for an appeal are incredibly limited. Appeals can only be brought for errors in the application of the law, you can't argue facts.

It seems like what they find to be errors in the law are very broad for many of the death penalty (and other cases).

I have read about cases where the error certainly wasn't agreed on by all parties involved or observers so not sure that they can be labeled as fact.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by moon

It seems like what they find to be errors in the law are very broad for many of the death penalty (and other cases).

I have read about cases where the error certainly wasn't agreed on by all parties involved or observers so not sure that they can be labeled as fact.

Well if the error could be agreed on by all parties it would a relatively obvious appeal, which pretty much never happens. I'm not sure how the prosecution disagreeing that there was an error makes something less worthy of appellate review, it's exactly what you'd expect to see.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by T@T

Troy Davis executed just last year was quite likely innocent.

No he actually quite likely wasn't. The guy admitted to being the triggerman to others and then cried innocence once he was sentenced to die. The guy killed a police officer, good riddance!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Davis

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No he actually quite likely wasn't. The guy admitted to being the triggerman to others and then cried innocence once he was sentenced to die. The guy killed a police officer, good riddance!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Davis

False confession never crossed your mind? I'm not saying it was the case here, but do you think they never happen?

[Alberta_Beef]

I am definitely too morbid for my own good.

I was reading the offender information of the 2nd one down and saw that the woman he sexually assaulted and murdered were found by guys "laying pipe" and I found it hilarious.