New video shows Vancouver Police shooting injured, unarmed man in the head

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by VO #23

None of these things directly impact the liberty interests of citizens though, or contribute to their lives being ended. I don't think it's a 'romantic notion' to hold police officers to the highest of standards, IMO.

I know some cops too and I've heard different things - letting the dogs loose on suspects who are already surrendering, punching suspects who are already in handcuffs, etc. That's not the type of behaviour I can get onboard with or turn a blind eye to.

I've had kids live with me that have had all of that happen, but they had all just called the cops donut eating pigs and spat at them just before so I am not as pissed about it as some might be.

First thing I teach my kids is don't be a mouthy prick and don't file a complaint unless you plan on giving up crime.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by VO #23

None of these things directly impact the liberty interests of citizens though, or contribute to their lives being ended.

You've got a good point there - I do agree with you but I was trying to show that regardless of the levels we hold people too - some will buckle under different types of stress or pressure regardless of how professional they are.

[handgroen]

well i guess guns don't kill people, scared, regretful individuals holding guns do.

tough situation to constantly have the power to kill anyone around you at any time.

power breeds corruption. plain and simple. a question i would like answered by the officer who killed that man is; "do you still wish to carry your gun?"

my bet is no, and this is probably the most contemplated re-lived moment of his life. i bet he wishes it never happened, i bet he wishes there was no gun in his hand. for the posters that are portraying cops as an evil entity ask yourselves "do you believe the killer relishes in the memory?"

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

pretty easy viewpoint to have from your comfortable seat.

you would prefer the alternative of all-out anarchism then?

So the alternative to dishonest, corrupt policing is anarchism?

[Flash Walken]

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Mistakes made in fatal shooting, former B.C. top cop says

A former B.C. solicitor general says amateur video released this week shows that Vancouver police failed to follow procedure in the shooting death of a mentally ill man.

On Wednesday, Liberal MLA Kash Heed screened the video taken by a tourist as police confronted Paul Boyd, who had become violent and threatening on a Vancouver street on the night of Aug. 13, 2007.

The incident ended after police fired a ninth shot, which hit Boyd in the head and killed him.

Heed, also a former Vancouver police superintendent and a former West Vancouver police chief, had supported the officers’ actions based on five previous investigations that laid no blame against them.

"After reviewing the incident I have a different opinion,” Heed said Wednesday. “I'm glad that we are now focusing on an outside agency to come in and review this incident. The minister of justice made the correct call here," Heed said.

Boyd can be seen in the video, crawling slowly on all fours toward Const. Lee Chipperfield, who fired the fatal round.

Heed said a well-trained officer would not have fired that shot under the circumstances.

"Because if the threat is no longer the threat that was posed originally, when you applied your force, of course, you must go to a different level to control the individual.”

Forensic psychologist Michael Elterman, who also screened the video Wednesday, agreed with Heed.