League of Legends

[CaramonLS]

Oh and what Kirant said so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle - LAST HIT CREEPS!

Practice this. It is how you get gold. Become really good at it. All champs have a different auto attack speed, some are a lot better than others at it.

You shouldn't be attacking creeps until you are ready to last hit, unless someone is pushing the lane on you - lots of new players do this and just push the lane with no worries at all. It leaves them a lot more open to being ganked.

If you notice this happening, say it in chat and call for the gank. Usually top can push their lane a little bit and come down and help or your jungler (if you have one). If they are trying it at an early level - don't worry too much about it, because they can't inflict any meaningful damage to your tower.

[CaramonLS]

What is everyone's opinion on Fiddlesticks? He seems to do pretty well as a jungler.

I've played him in two PvP games and in smaller fights he is extremely effective, but when I get into 5v5 scenarios, he got focused hard - really hard. He isn't all that tanky.

I do like his CC - mid game if you get a fear (2.5 seconds of them standing there!) / drain off, if you're with someone, your target will die. Unreal gank potential in that respect.

Still haven't perfected Crowstorm attacks yet.

But, without Blue Buff though - you lose mana, fast.

[Blaster86]

Like all AP jungles, he doesn't scale well enough.

[SHOGUN]

I have a question, if you were to team up with a friend and queue, will it match you up with randoms or other team parties?

[CaramonLS]

Apparently it doesn't. It only matches 5v5 teams, so if you and 3 friend queue, you could easily find yourself playing a total pug.

[CaramonLS]

Just hit level 20 and it is time to buy my T3 runes. Saved up about 5000 IP for it.

I can finally jungle on some decent characters now, maybe

I will say this though, I have had a lot of fun jungling Nunu in games lately. I've never seen anyone use him either. Maybe he is just one of those ones that can't be used in high ELO games.

His ganks @ level 4 are good, his level 6 is great. He is a pretty strange character to build though - he scales really well with AP, but building him AP is kind of silly as it only helps 2 of his damaging abilities (with one of them only being able to be used once per team fight), so I've been trying strange hybrid types with Guinsoos and Hextec Gunblade. Coming in from behind and firing off an ice ball + Absolute Zero = one of their team goes down immediately - they can't flash out of it if you position yourself well (unless they flash directly into your team, which is certain death), at worst you can cancel it and get 2/3rd of the damage from it. Positioning is key for that Ultimate, but the damage is absolutely insane.

Just gotta be careful about hard CC characters, so sometimes it is preferable to hold it until you're engaged.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Just hit level 20 and it is time to buy my T3 runes. Saved up about 5000 IP for it.

I can finally jungle on some decent characters now, maybe

I will say this though, I have had a lot of fun jungling Nunu in games lately. I've never seen anyone use him either. Maybe he is just one of those ones that can't be used in high ELO games.

His ganks @ level 4 are good, his level 6 is great. He is a pretty strange character to build though - he scales really well with AP, but building him AP is kind of silly as it only helps 2 of his damaging abilities (with one of them only being able to be used once per team fight), so I've been trying strange hybrid types with Guinsoos and Hextec Gunblade. Coming in from behind and firing off an ice ball + Absolute Zero = one of their team goes down immediately - they can't flash out of it if you position yourself well (unless they flash directly into your team, which is certain death), at worst you can cancel it and get 2/3rd of the damage from it. Positioning is key for that Ultimate, but the damage is absolutely insane.

Just gotta be careful about hard CC characters, so sometimes it is preferable to hold it until you're engaged.

I played Nunu for a while and unfortunately I found he can be completely useless against certain teams. He's got amazing lane sustain but if the other team has any sort of interupt ability his ult is completely negated. He can deal tons of damage but given how easily it is for the other team to shut his ultimate down was the deal breaker for me.

Been playing with Olaf recently and man is he a ton of fun.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

I played Nunu for a while and unfortunately I found he can be completely useless against certain teams. He's got amazing lane sustain but if the other team has any sort of interupt ability his ult is completely negated. He can deal tons of damage but given how easily it is for the other team to shut his ultimate down was the deal breaker for me.

Been playing with Olaf recently and man is he a ton of fun.

His Ult a mind game if you're a jungler more than anything. You use it knowing you won't get it off. The AoE slow and complete chaos you can create with it is the most you can get done...an excellent thing if you can get it done right. Though...if you have Amumu and time it right

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by kirant

His Ult a mind game if you're a jungler more than anything. You use it knowing you won't get it off. The AoE slow and complete chaos you can create with it is the most you can get done...an excellent thing if you can get it done right. Though...if you have Amumu and time it right

The good thing about his ult is that if you know they are going to escape it, you can cancel it at the last minute for a % of damage.

There are times I've used it effectively with the intention of it doing 2/3rds damage, just start moving and it scales according to how long you've been channeling.

But yeah, certain team comps can just shut your ult down - you just have to resist temptation and keep holding until the enemy has silence / stun cooldowns... if you make it that far.

Sona, Veigar - now those are fun ones to team with. You can catch 2-3 in the ult.

[SHOGUN]

Man how do some of you guys have the patience in solo queue? Only 2 wins in last 8 games... mostly due to people going AFK.

[CaramonLS]

Oh man, it gets testy. Be nice if they had a feature where someone could take over or the game ends. I had a 6 minute rage quitter the other day (like, really?), which forced me as the jungler to cover mid lane (no, they wouldn't switch either) when I was Lee Sin. Yeah, solid Match vs Ahri early game.

Had one yesterday where I was matched with a tryndermere who only said one thing all game 'I no solo top', he then began to continually leave bottom lane, feed the enemy and do more harm than good. Didn't even try to communicate with us after.

He was lvl 17 with 5 wins. How the f do I get matched with that garbage?

[CaramonLS]

^ ^ Just play a cheap mid game character like Talon mid or Leblanc mid. Get your kills early and hope for a 20 minute surrender.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by caramonls

he was lvl 17 with 5 wins. How the f do i get matched with that garbage?

elo.

AlexHayden if anyone cares.

[spetch]

The amount of afk'rs seems to drop off at 30. that 22-25 level range it was extremely bad. Just have to fight through it though. I find that if I'm on a bad run of trolls on my team I will take a break and play a few coop vs AI with a new champ (preferaly one I encouter a lot) to learn how they operate, makes my life easier when I come up against them

[CaramonLS]

Anyone got any suggestions on new champs to play?

Seriously, if I find I want a quick win, I just play Morgana in Mid. Ahri was a free champ last week and Morg is pretty much a direct counter pick to her and throws most Ahris around with ease. Morg is pretty sick throughout the whole game. I find that in about 50% of the games I play I can buy a Meiji's Soulstealer, if I've got a mid who wants to feed me.

I know there is a lot of different opinions on the Meijis, but it all depends how you play. You need 5 stacks to break even on the investment (2 kills, 1 assist or 1 kill, 2 assists). So if you're finding that in the game you are in, you can achieve those types of numbers without dying, Meiji's is absolutely worth it. Most games it will be worth it, unless you're playing a really, really hard mid.

Then the game turns into a gong show. I start roaming once I push my lane and get fed. I can end up w/ 500+ AP by endgame and be well ahead of a lot of other casters. If you get at least one item with some CD reduction and Blue buff for team fights, you can fire off your spells with minimal downtime (only big problem IMHO with morg).

Then of course, her Ult will single handedly win you a team fight.

Never played Cassapoia - I know she is pretty much insta banned in ranked. Opinions on her? Any other mid chars I should try?

What about Junglers? I've been jungling Warwick lately and that is pretty fun. Once you get the Wits end, he pretty much tears through people with his ult - those ult ganks are just insane coming out of the river.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

His post about OP champs and how fun they are.

Morg is currently one of the most over powered lane champions in the game. But against skilled players she's useless in team fights later on. If your team isn't well ahead by late game you can become a liability even if you handily won lane and her ult doesn't make up for it.

WW is ridiculously easy to jungle with because of how effective he is as a ganker, same as Lee-Sin. Malphite can be fun.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Morg is currently one of the most over powered lane champions in the game. But against skilled players she's useless in team fights later on. If your team isn't well ahead by late game you can become a liability even if you handily won lane and her ult doesn't make up for it.

WW is ridiculously easy to jungle with because of how effective he is as a ganker, same as Lee-Sin. Malphite can be fun.

I don't know, I find she is pretty good in team fights. Obviously Morg is the best when she is 2v2 or 'fencing' an opponent. I've gotten pretty good at landing my Qs, so that isn't really the issue in team fights.

I find that as long as you don't use the ult like an idiot (i.e. rush in and lead the charge), you can be pretty effective. If you're the secondary engager and can hit 3-4 people initially and finish on 2, lay down your black pool / spell shield yourself, you'll survive.

Generally I find that I don't get a ton of kills in the big team fights, but as long as you use your spells effectively, you can get probably 4 champs down about 40-50% of their health.

I guess my goal is to make sure I don't let the other mid become effective.

[spetch]

I never have any issues with morg (i play ahri mainly right now). If you are looking for a challenge mid to play try leblanc, very finesse anti mage. I was thinking about trying anivia or fizz too. As for jungle stick with the main ones, lee, ww, skarner and usually u will pub stomp. Ive been trying mundo jungle but he defintaely is trickier.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by spetch

I never have any issues with morg (i play ahri mainly right now). If you are looking for a challenge mid to play try leblanc, very finesse anti mage. I was thinking about trying anivia or fizz too. As for jungle stick with the main ones, lee, ww, skarner and usually u will pub stomp. Ive been trying mundo jungle but he defintaely is trickier.

Played Leblanc a little bit, yeah she is a real challange to play effectively IMHO. I know you can stomp people if you get fed early, but if you get behind... I was up against some mids who have good pokes and had a lot of troubles (I played one match against Zilean and almost tore my hair out. He can run away from you, rez himself and uses his stupid bombs to poke and push lanes better, which outrange Leblanc significantly). I even leashed him w/ my chain one time and he outran it.

Anivia was pretty good at holding the lane, but times I've played with her I have struggled to get kills, which leads to a very weak endgame for me. If the team fights start before she gets Deathcap, her AoE is very ineffective. But if you get kills, then yeah, she is really solid for an endgame caster.

Never played Kassadin before - I know he is a hard counter in mid, but is he decent endgame? Never played Fizz at all either.

Any suggestions for good top laners?

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Played Leblanc a little bit, yeah she is a real challange to play effectively IMHO. I know you can stomp people if you get fed early, but if you get behind... I was up against some mids who have good pokes and had a lot of troubles (I played one match against Zilean and almost tore my hair out. He can run away from you, rez himself and uses his stupid bombs to poke and push lanes better, which outrange Leblanc significantly). I even leashed him w/ my chain one time and he outran it.

Anivia was pretty good at holding the lane, but times I've played with her I have struggled to get kills, which leads to a very weak endgame for me. If the team fights start before she gets Deathcap, her AoE is very ineffective. But if you get kills, then yeah, she is really solid for an endgame caster.

Never played Kassadin before - I know he is a hard counter in mid, but is he decent endgame? Never played Fizz at all either.

Any suggestions for good top laners?

Kassadin is freakin boss. He is my go-to AP character and whenever I play him I almost always get a ton of kills and have only 1 or 2 deaths. The thing about Kassadin is that he is an assassin so he needs to be played as one. Don't engage in straight up fights. Use him to hit an enemy champ and then dash away. He has some pretty great nuke damage and his teleport makes it almost impossible to catch and kill him especially if you take flash as well.