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Old 03-21-2012, 01:49 AM   #81
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From an intelligence gathering side I'm sure that you could effectively use special forces units to pin point unit locations and strengths and laze strategic targets.

Getting close to Syria's leadership in downtown Damascus is a whole different story even for a special forces unit like the Seals, but more then likely Army Green Berets.
just getting to Damascus would be a task in itself, Syria has a modern radar and anti aircraft systems, which precludes any kind of ariel insertion so you are looking at crossing the border in Turkey and somehow driving through the country. How the hell you get out after every guard is alerted by the sound of a rifle is a whole other question.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:15 AM   #82
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just getting to Damascus would be a task in itself, Syria has a modern radar and anti aircraft systems, which precludes any kind of ariel insertion so you are looking at crossing the border in Turkey and somehow driving through the country. How the hell you get out after every guard is alerted by the sound of a rifle is a whole other question.
Didn't Pakistan also have a modern radar and anti aircraft system? That didn't seem to help bin Laden a lot though. Mind you I guess most of those systems are pointed to India...
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:44 AM   #83
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And weren't there intelligence reports leaked by Wikileaks that said there were a lot of different Special Forces troops already in Syria?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:58 AM   #84
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Didn't Pakistan also have a modern radar and anti aircraft system? That didn't seem to help bin Laden a lot though. Mind you I guess most of those systems are pointed to India...
I think it was a way different mission, you weren't really facing a national army at that compound that was all that alert or well trained. It was a costly mission as well in terms of material costs.

You were also fighting a complacent enemy without anti air defenses.

In this case I can't see how easy it would be to fly a helicopter through to the center of Demascus and crash it into a compound of alert decently trained special forces troops of Syria's own, then fighting your way into the Palace or into a bunker.

I also doubt that el presidentie is going to stick his head up for a sniper shot, and it would be very tough to get a sniper into range since they probably have ringed defenses stretching out over blocks.

And the above is correct, Syria has one of the best air defenses in the middle east, they've spent lavishly on it with both the Russian's and Iranians, so getting in through air is a real risk. Walking in through Turkey is the most effective way.

And I have no doubt that there are special forces troops from various nations in Syria training the insurgents or at the very least gathering intelligence and getting it back to the rebel groups.

But I would think that those Special Forces groups are fairly specialized around training insurgents (Green Beret) or even targeting infrastructure (Seal, Marine Force Recon?)

Plus Iran is Syria's best Ally, how would they react if that f%%Ker got zapped by a Western Bullet. You want to see paranoia through the roof, that would cause it.
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Didn't Pakistan also have a modern radar and anti aircraft system? That didn't seem to help bin Laden a lot though. Mind you I guess most of those systems are pointed to India...
plus the chopper was flying below radar and was an RCS reduced variant
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:50 PM   #86
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plus the chopper was flying below radar and was an RCS reduced variant
Plus in the end we didn't care what Pakistan thought about it as their goverment needs us, we had already had a US agent kill a couple of Pakistani agents on the streets of Karachi with no real problems. And to be frank killing Osama was worth the risk and complecations, democracy for Syria isn't.
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