Do Vancouver Men Suck?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

dude its not hard if someone asks what you do for a living, it gives it away, unless you do a job where your pay scale isn't known. What I do for a living you can't have a criminal record.

Yes, for example, I am a astronaut Cowboy Millionaire who made my money when I was the Former Dictator for life on the Island of Terror.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Yes, for example, I am a astronaut Cowboy Millionaire who made my money when I was the Former Dictator for life on the Island of Terror.

Do you wear a cape? Bitches love capes.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

A little off topic, but since we are on the subject of 'immature men' and the dating world, I'd like to add my 2 cents.

From about age 16 - 25 I noticed that men around this age bracket that have nothing going for them (No education, trade-certificate, work ethic, money) seem to do well with women if they are of great social stature, good looking, rebelious etc.

I couldnt understand for the life of me, how these characters did so well with Pretty women who were high acheivers in school and in careers. I suppose women within that same age group have different priorities at that stage in their life. They want adventure and are looking for a good time.

Fast forward to 25 and on and my prospects with women have significantly improved as I have a good job / career & money saved and have my sh** together. I'm average looking, in good shape, but I do get alot of positive responses from the opposite sex that otherwise would have not been offered in my late teens early twenties.
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it's cause women finally grow up

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by blankall

haha. No, but most people do normally discuss what they do for work during a first date. I spend 50-60 hours a week at work. It's obviously going to come up at some point during a first date.

Even though my life was a lot less boring when I was working in kitchens/doing sales work and considering my options for the future, there was definitely a large part of the female demographic who wanted no part of that.

No kidding.....the question of "what do you do" typically comes up within seconds of meeting women.
I swear women have asked me that before they asked what my name is lol....

Sometimes I like to avoid answering this question directly with whitty responses....especially if the date melts down into a job interview.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

it's cause women finally grow up

Really? When?

[1stLand]

I think Hollywood has glamourized / endeared the 20 something male slacker.

I mean look at movies made nowadays:

Seth Rogan - routinely plays the lovable irresponsible slacker who means well and is a chronic pot smoker. In the end, he always gets the girl over the stereotypical pretentious career minded antagonist.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Locke

Do you wear a cape? Bitches love capes.

Yup it keeps my butt warm when I wear my formal dinner a$$less chaps.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Yup it keeps my butt warm when I wear my formal dinner a$$less chaps.

Are there any other kind ???

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Are there any other kind ???

Yes, there's the casual about town a$$less chaps. The attending a sporting event while sitting in the first row a$$less chaps, and the ever possible I need to work on the sink plumbing a$$less chaps.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

dude its not hard if someone asks what you do for a living, it gives it away, unless you do a job where your pay scale isn't known. What I do for a living you can't have a criminal record.

So what do you do for a living?

[CaptainCrunch]

Woman like dating jerks, no matter what the age, they want a project that they can change and mould and manipulate.

They want to take the guy that dresses in his own style, does what he wants and drives a big environment killing vehicle.

And they want that guy to wear golf shirts or seaters, dockers, to call them every night at 6 so she can complain about her day, and she wants him to give up that vehicle for a ultra safe sedan or minivan or god forgive hybrid car.

Meanwhile the guy goes obliviously around that his business, not realizing that he's slowly turning into a ken doll for her pleasure and edification.

Do you know why most woman young and old don't like dating the good guys. Publically they'll say he's safe, he's boring, but in their mind they know that they can't change him, mould him and eventually destroy him,

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

No kidding.....the question of "what do you do" typically comes up within seconds of meeting women.
I swear women have asked me that before they asked what my name is lol....

Sometimes I like to avoid answering this question directly with whitty responses....especially if the date melts down into a job interview.

You should bust out some of your views on women, politics and the environment to her. It'd probably end the date a lot quicker and spare you and her the pain of the bad witty responses.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Along with urine and DNA samples for testing, if they want to.

I always offer to give a DNA sample on a date. If they don't want one, I go home a give a tube sock the sample.

[SeeGeeWhy]

I believe in North America, both genders do not:

a) mature emotionally, or
b) embrace the finer points of their own gender

until a much later age... say late 20s early 30s... And if it hasn't happened by then, it probably wont at all. Haven't you met a few people in your life that are 50 but never seemed to get out of that high school mentality? How are two people supposed to come together in circumstances like that?

Today we have much longer life expectations, are not taught how to understand our emotions or manage our personal boundaries very well at all, there are very few celebrated rites of passage anymore, we are not taught how to keep good financial order in our own lives, it goes on and on... in many ways, there are multiple "lost" generations living within our borders and I think it leads to difficult interpersonal relationships on every level, but we lament our romantic relationships (or lack thereof) the most.

With women specifically.. they have many more options today than their traditional roles have afforded them and this has happened all in a relatively short timespan. Our culture hasn't really had a lot of time to respond to this on either side of the gender coin. We all still celebrate the price charming/sleeping beauty fable whether we like to admit it or not, yet neither males nor females understand if it is ok to want to play either role anymore... so we all hold back, or go forward wanting some ideal when in reality we're probably rushing things.

Is it gold digging if a 24 year old marries an "established" 36 year old so she can take the financial and career risks in order to start a family while she is young and healthy enough to do so? I don't think so, I think it's smart actually. This reality of imablanced emotional intelligence/maturity, wealth, "life options", confused cultural norms, etc makes developing healthy relationships within your age group very difficult.

I think for the most part, both men and women have lost their ways. Masculinity is and has been on a decline for sometime... where is femininity? On the rise? I'm not sure... I think perhaps maybe. I think all of this is a reflection of a selfish, effed up society.

As an aside, there are a lot of people in this thread that come off as bitter, as if they expect the opposite sex to never make any mistakes in life, or that they should not be expected to want the best for themselves yet they forgive themselves for the same two things... its ok to be single people. Odd thread.

[Cain]

Just some personal thoughts on what this has turned into.

I'm in my late twenties, still in school, doing a 2nd degree. I do not have a lot of cash because of this. No shiny car, no fancy house. I am not bad looking, I am in decent shape. I have been friend zoned so many times I've lost count. I understand the reticence. I am older, still in school (for the second time) and by all material measures unsuccessful at this moment in time. What gets me though is that it is something that people presume will persist indefinitely. If someone doesn't have something now, they will likely never have it seems to be the mentality.

What also irks me is that you tell everyone that you aren't enjoying what you are doing, and you wish you changed it up and did something else. They all look at you and say, you know what, you are under 30 still, go back and do it! Totally worth it! And it probably is in the long run, but man does it sometimes feel futile trying to meet the other sex sometimes and explaining what you are doing and why you aren't making the big bucks right then and there. Especially bothersome because I don't expect any lady candidates to have an amazing career and pull in tons of money either. I honestly don't care...perhaps because I don't myself, but still...

Not bitter, but I don't think I appreciated the sizable impact it would have on things (being in school still).

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

You should bust out some of your views on women, politics and the environment to her. It'd probably end the date a lot quicker and spare you and her the pain of the bad witty responses.

But your mom loved my witty responses!

Seriously though, I don't talk about politics on dates .....women have nothing to offer me in that arena.

Talking politics is bad date etiquette .....too heavy.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I always offer to give a DNA sample on a date. If they don't want one, I go home a give a tube sock the sample.

Pfft, I just leave it on their front door if they don't want it.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

Is it gold digging if a 24 year old marries an "established" 36 year old so she can take the financial and career risks in order to start a family while she is young and healthy enough to do so? I don't think so, I think it's smart actually. This reality of imablanced emotional intelligence/maturity, wealth, "life options", confused cultural norms, etc makes developing healthy relationships within your age group very difficult.

Yeah, why should women look for other qualities beyond simple material wealth ...Obviously it's going to be a balance. However, there are a lot of women who'd rather date a jerk making 100k, than a nice guy making 50-60k. That is what a gold digger is.

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

As an aside, there are a lot of people in this thread that come off as bitter, as if they expect the opposite sex to never make any mistakes in life, or that they should not be expected to want the best for themselves yet they forgive themselves for the same two things... its ok to be single people. Odd thread.

Let's keep in mind this thread was started from a statement from a women complaining about her own ability to find men worth dating.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

But your mom loved my witty responses!

Seriously though, I don't talk about politics on dates .....women have nothing to offer me in that arena.

Talking politics is bad date etiquette .....too heavy.

Ahhhh a post where simultaneously talk about good etiquette and call out women for being too dumb to discuss politics. Quite the gentleman.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

But your mom loved my witty responses!

Seriously though, I don't talk about politics on dates .....women have nothing to offer me in that arena.

Talking politics is bad date etiquette .....too heavy.

First thought that comes to mind is that you're dating the wrong type of woman.

Its hardly bad etiquette depending on the woman that you go out with.

The only bad etiquette on the first date is asking what her favorite sexual position is, and if she does anal.

Unless your totally dating a total slut monster.