Feaster: "I really feel Jarome will finish his career here in Calgary"

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

^ To me, the first steps in moving forward is that this team should be able to (a) compete at both ends of the ice, (b) show that they believe in themselves when they are down a goal, and (c) show they can win with any NHL goalie, and not rely on Kiprusoff so heavily.

Again, you talk about moving forward without looking at the big picture.

This team isn't going to take steps forward - this season - to contend for the cup... and it's blatantly obvious that we'll see a very different team in the next few years with salaries coming off the book.

It would be great to see this current team move forward in the context of the season but I don't think they're that good.

[Trailer Fire]

I heard from a few people (Canucks fans) that they would be interested in trading for Iggy. They propose Schneider and Hodgson would be appropiate. Obviously some cap would need to come back our way. Using Schneider and Hodgson for Iggy as a bulding block, where would that trade go? How could you make that trade fair for both sides?

I would love to see Schneider and Hodgson on our end, but I don't see any way to make it doable.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Philly is in no position to add a seven million dollar salary.

So you just ignored the like and type comments that showed that I was using Schenn as an example of the type of elite level prospect we could get and not the guy we would be getting?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

I heard from a few people (Canucks fans) that they would be interested in trading for Iggy. They propose Schneider and Hodgson would be appropiate. Obviously some cap would need to come back our way. Using Schneider and Hodgson for Iggy as a bulding block, where would that trade go? How could you make that trade fair for both sides?

I would love to see Schneider and Hodgson on our end, but I don't see any way to make it doable.

If Iginla puts on a Canucks jersey, I am officially giving up as a hockey fan.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by moon

So you just ignored the like and type comments that showed that I was using Schenn as an example of the type of elite level prospect we could get and not the guy we would be getting?

I thought explaining that Philly is in no position to take on a 7 million dollar salary spoke for itself, and there's no indication they'd be willing to make that deal.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

[It's pretty clear you love being negative, but I couldn't care less about that comment in and of itself.

You couldn't care less you posted about it 3 times in this thread alone. You must take over a thread when there is something you care a little bit about and good thing that Photon bumped up the server or CP would be screwed with the amount of posts you would have about something you are passionate about:

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Again, coming from a guy who called Byron "garbage"... excuse me if I don't take your opinion as gospel when it comes to our prospect pool. You are notorious for downplaying almost anyone this team has in their system.

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

And you called Byron garbage. Its kind of tough having any subjective discussion with you when the storm cloud you live in skews your outlook that dramatically.

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

And FYI your labeling Byron as "GARBAGE" (think about that word) speaks for itself. It just goes to show how much point there is discussing anything with you objectively.

It was abundantly clear in Byron's good showing up with the big team to date you were more interested in saving face with regard to your asinine comments than you were giving the guy some props for playing well.

As Tinordi said the overrating of prospects has to stop. Byron was meh when up here and roster issues or not that is evident with him being in the AHL right now and not the NHL.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

I heard from a few people (Canucks fans) that they would be interested in trading for Iggy. They propose Schneider and Hodgson would be appropiate. Obviously some cap would need to come back our way. Using Schneider and Hodgson for Iggy as a bulding block, where would that trade go? How could you make that trade fair for both sides?

I would love to see Schneider and Hodgson on our end, but I don't see any way to make it doable.

I can't see any reason for one of the highest scoring teams in the league to trade for a player whos major asset is scoring.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

I thought explaining that Philly is in no position to take on a 7 million dollar salary spoke for itself, and there's no indication they'd be willing to make that deal.

Which is why I never said that the deal this year would be with Philly or that Schenn would be coming here.

I said that a player like Schenn is the type of return we could get, not Schenn himself but a player like him.

It is the reason for using the word like in the sentence and the term type of player rather than just saying we could deal with Philly and get Schenn himself.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

As if tonight wasn't depressing enough. Refusing to trade Iginla sounds like a terrible mistake. There's no new team so long as the captain remains.

I thought the same thing when Feaster declared Sutter's job was safe last week.

[Roof-Daddy]

Hmmmm, I wonder if this is Feaster pulling a fast one?

"I really feel Jarome will finish his career here in Calgary"

Sooooo, you trade him for a windfall return, restock the cupboards, and sign him July 1st 2013 at a discount price.......and he FINISHES his career here in Calgary?

[puckluck]

GT: Moon vs. Captain Obvious. Captain Obvious with a big showing and is up 5-0 in the third.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by moon

You couldn't care less you posted about it 3 times in this thread alone. You must take over a thread when there is something you care a little bit about and good thing that Photon bumped up the server or CP would be screwed with the amount of posts you would have about something you are passionate about: Tinordi said the overrating of prospects has to stop. Byron was meh when up here and roster issues or not that is evident with him being in the AHL right now and not the NHL.

I really don't see how it's difficult for you to understand. Calling a prospect like Byron "Garbage" doesn't get much more ignorant.

You ask why I think you're always negative and that couldn't be a better example, and in an ongoing discussion about our prospects, your inability to look at something objectively is very relevant.

But you're correct about the amount of posts.

Turning this thread into another "Moon pisses all over Flames Prospects" bonanza couldn't be any more played out. There are literally dozens of threads where you do this to no end.

If you'd like to continue with it, feel free. I won't waste one more post on debating anything to do with our prospects because you have no objectivity whatsoever and obviously have some issues to work through.

Originally Posted by moon

Which is why I never said that the deal this year would be with Philly or that Schenn would be coming here.

I said that a player like Schenn is the type of return we could get, not Schenn himself but a player like him.

It is the reason for using the word like in the sentence and the term type of player rather than just saying we could deal with Philly and get Schenn himself.

Well then feel free to name him or them without using the unlikely example of Schenn.

Too much to ask for?

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The overrating of our young players needs to stop and that includes Baertschi.

And you need to stop underrating every Flames player in every thread.

Boom.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Hmmmm, I wonder if this is Feaster pulling a fast one?

Feaster finished the interview I quoted in my first post and then immediately texted Incarcerated Bob to tell him about the imminent trade that's pending which will send Iggy to Montreal tomorrow morning.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

I really don't see how it's difficult for you to understand. Calling a prospect like Byron "Garbage" doesn't get much more ignorant.

You ask why I think you're always negative and that couldn't be a better example, and in an ongoing discussion about our prospects, your inability to look at something objectively is very relevant.

But you're correct about the amount of posts.

Turning this thread into another "Moon pisses all over Flames Prospects" couldn't be any more played out.

If you'd like to continue with it, feel free. I won't waste one more post on debating anything to do with our prospects because you have no objectivity whatsoever and obviously have some issues to work through.

LOL pissing on prospects?

Again keep on living in your bubble and making crap up to fit your idea of how things are while ignoring reality.

Well then feel free to name him or them without using the unlikely example of Schenn.

Too much to ask for?

Considering I don't know who is interested in Iginla it is probably more of a waste of time but I guess at some point in the near future I can go through every team and come up with a list of guys that would be involved in a possible trade.

The reason that I used Schenn as a quick example is that people close to the LA Kings have said that he was definitely available last year if the Flames would have given up Iginla at the trade deadline.

Seems like a pretty good indication of what he is worth and probably a little more useful that guessing at what team may have interest in Iginla at this point.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

There is nothing wrong with keeping a veteran presence through a rebuild and suggesting this team can't build a winning team while keeping Iginla over the next five years is just ignorant.

I hope Iggy stays too, but is he really going to re-sign here in 2 years?

Unless Sven and Reinhart and the other young kids are even better than expected, I can't see Iggy wanting to stay here, and especially not at a hometown discount.

In fact, I can seriously see him finishing his career in Edmonton as a UFA. IN 2 years time, that team will be a contender and they will provide him with a serious chance at a cup.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Hmmmm, I wonder if this is Feaster pulling a fast one?

"I really feel Jarome will finish his career here in Calgary"

Sooooo, you trade him for a windfall return, restock the cupboards, and sign him July 1st 2013 at a discount price.......and he FINISHES his career here in Calgary?

Thanked because I hope that is the case.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by 868904

I hope Iggy stays too, but is he really going to re-sign here in 2 years?

Unless Sven and Reinhart and the other young kids are even better than expected, I can't see Iggy wanting to stay here, and especially not at a hometown discount.

In fact, I can seriously see him finishing his career in Edmonton as a UFA. IN 2 years time, that team will be a contender and they will provide him with a serious chance at a cup.

I really don't know... I guess it depends on how happy he and his family are, and this could be a drastically different team at that time. Maybe some savvy moves and drafts will have things looking a lot better and he'll like the direction.

Either way I'm sure that there will be dialogue in his last contracted season about where he's at and where the team's at.

Feaster said it was his feeling Iginla will remain here. He didn't say it was set it stone.

But I think both Iginla and the Flames intend to stay the course at present.

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I thought the same thing when Feaster declared Sutter's job was safe last week.

I'd let Brent go right away, but Feaster's view doesn't surprise me. Sutter will probably be gone when they miss the playoffs again and the management doesn't want to deal with coaching hassles in the middle of the season.

It's tough to keep commenting without becoming a wet blanket these days. I have faith in their current drafting but I don't know about the rest. It might be a long mediocre rebuild if the GM and owners aren't willing to draw strong conclusions and make tough decisions.

[I am the Liquor]

As an Oiler fan, Ive always admired Iginla and how the organization has been able and willing to hang onto him all these years. I remember when Smyth and Iggy were in their contract years, and there was talk of both of them possibly being traded, Calgary stepped up and did the right thing, while Lowe traded Smyth over what amounted to pocket change.

Needless to say, the Oilers went straight into the tank and only now are showing slight signs of recovery, with a large part of it being attributable to Smyth coming back oddly enough.

I know there is frustration for you guys, but I really would like to see Iginla finish his career as a Flame, if he so desires. Its the classy thing to do. Sometimes there are things are more important than a draft pick and a prospect. Like legacy and loyalty.

If the Flames decide to blow it up, it will be a long and painful process. None of you know yet what the true price of a first overall draft pick is. Mind numbing losing streaks the likes you have never seen before, completely inept and embarrassing performances. Being the laughing stock of the entire league and the butt of jokes of every single fan base, including perpetual losers like the Leafs.

Tanking isnt all its cracked up to be and I think the benefits of hanging on to Iginla outweigh the possible benefits of whatever return he may garner, which could be considerably less than many of you might think as his contract is fairly prohibitive for most contending teams.