Google+ Project

[Azure]

Originally Posted by fundmark19

Just wait till they add 82 million more users I am sure the spam will increase

Facebook has 'spam' because people can do a lot of stupid crap on there. Play games, take tests, etc, etc.

I don't really care that much, outside of the fact that it shows up in my feed, and I can't block it UNTIL it does.

[fleudian]

This pretty much explains how I feel about G+, after having used it for a couple week...

[Regular_John]

Honestly it's just got too much overlap with facebook to make it useful. I deleted my google+ account yesterday because there just wasn't enough activity/users to justify using it over FB.

[REDVAN]

Thanks for the hook-up Azure!

Not sure how long it takes to get invites, but I'll gladly pay it forward when I get some.

[fundmark19]

I got mine instantly pm me if u need some

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

I deleted my google+ account yesterday because there just wasn't enough activity/users to justify using it over FB.

That's the way Facebook started out too. You've got to give it some time. I'm enjoying the conversations on G+ a lot better than FB; circles filters out the rifraf.

[calgaryrocks]

yea the circles are pretty cool, but more people need to sign up before it becomes useful

[pylon]

This is how I see this going.

I was an early hotmail user, before it was even microsoft (mid 90's I believe). I even think I was beta on it. This was when webmail was a 'new' thing. Then somewhere along the line messenger came along as kinda a companion product to hotmail. I ditched icq, and instantly moved to messenger. Over 12 or so years, I gathered hundreds of messenger contacts. Ex coworkers, friends, chicks I met, girls off the old dating sites... etc, and ended up with this giant pool of crappy spam on my oh so sweet, plain old firstname lastname @hotmail.com account.

Then came gmail. I ditched my spammed out hotmail account for gmail 2 years ago, and looked at it as a nice clean fresh start. Only adding people I really want to. Only using the email to sign up for sites I really want contacting me. I see google+ going the same way.

I collect email addresses from every client I meet, and i see gmail addresses 2 to 1 now on hotmail. I hear more and more people saying "Don't add me on facebook, I don't check it anymore." Facebook is now this childish gossip machine, with childish add-ons. I think the appeal of gmail, was it seems much more professional orientated. I see a lot of 6 and 7 figure people, that now use gmail as their primary addresses. Hotmail, and Yahoo never really got this distiction, there was a certian amount of shame attached to those services, Somehow, gmail avoided that with their service, and I think it is the simplicity of the application that did that.

This is how I see this going. Some peoples facebook pages are such cluster f's, I think they want a new, more mature platform to run with. Much like what happened to all the old hotmail and msn messenger accounts people are ditching now. The novelty of knowing everyone, and everything has worn off. People want their privacy back more than ever now.

I MIGHT log into facebook once every 2 months now, just to see if anyone has tried to contact me. It went from a neat networking tool, to a giant POS full of ######ed adults that cannot spell, people annoying me with their mundane updates and a bunch of immature kids trying to be profound with quotes they don't even understand in their updates. A ton of people have had enough of facebook, and about half the people I know have all but abandoned it because of the TMZness of it. Facebook can quote a massive userbase, but how many pages are just abandoned shells now?

I would almost bet, that within 2 years, facebook, will be as abandoned as myspace. Facebook is big, but google is an all consuming monster. Almost to a dangerous level of monopolization now. I believe google is either going to run facebook into the ground, or acquire it and merge the two concepts.

As long as they keep this thing nice and streamlined with a nice little user control panel, like gmail, and keep it more orientated to the 25+ crowd, I can honestly see this thing becoming the new standard. I see google+ as bridging the gap between linkedin and facebook.

[Phanuthier]

^ So what exactly do you think will make g+ that much better than fb? organization? (I'd agree there... but the rest of your post I disagree) The big selling point among nerds is security. Mark Zuckerberg seems to have the idea that we should all just assume that we have no social privacy and deal with it. 6-7 figure people using it? I hope its not for IP, because you shouldn't. When I was working on a project for a possible startup, we had to talk in code because you lose IP once its sent over gmail.

Its funny you talk about monopolies... because g+ was google's defense for fb being a monopoly.

Anyways, I'm making the change too. Fb video ads that pop up on their own piss me off. There's still a lot more to come for g+... but googlers are being tight lipped about it.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

^ So what exactly do you think will make g+ that much better than fb? organization? (I'd agree there... but the rest of your post I disagree) The big selling point among nerds is security. Mark Zuckerberg seems to have the idea that we should all just assume that we have no social privacy and deal with it. 6-7 figure people using it? I hope its not for IP, because you shouldn't. When I was working on a project for a possible startup, we had to talk in code because you lose IP once its sent over gmail.

Its funny you talk about monopolies... because g+ was google's defense for fb being a monopoly.

Anyways, I'm making the change too. Fb video ads that pop up on their own piss me off. There's still a lot more to come for g+... but googlers are being tight lipped about it.

Maybe I should correct that a bit. If I have Joe Smith in front of me he will still have the email Joe.Smith @jumbolawfirmllc as his work, but as personal email addresses, I see a ton of professionals using gmail as their alternates. I don't like getting work addresses, as I find it annoying as do most, getting personal mail in their work inbox.

I just feel when I log into facebook now, I am walking onto the grounds of a crappy state fair. It just feels so childish, cluttered, and unprofessional. I dunno, I just really like the sterile "feel" that google, and gmail have. I hoping for the same with google+.

[Phanuthier]

Maybe. FB has a lot of internet "real estate" ... and a pretty good software infrastructure as well, so they're more than just farmville and BS ads. And reputation, maybe not so much in the (older?) critical generation, but street crud in tech circles.

But ... they got to put their ignorance aside. g+ is going farther than wave, or buzz, or any other flops. And they're capturing market share, fast. Among general masses, google has always been a good guy, and facebook a bad guy. It wouldn't surprise me to see g+ dominate, but FB will not be bought out - this is a company run by nerds, not businessman. I could see FB trying to expand and move into other markets, maybe with their software infrastructure, but buyout? Unlikely... not for the so called "biggest IPO in history" FB.

[QuadCityImages]

G+ will eventually add games and become just as annoying as Facebook. And that's coming from a Google fanboy.

[Joborule]

For real. The bloody games/triva apps started ruining the facebook wall for me.

[Cscutch]

Google+ Traffic, Audience Time Drop
http://www.pcworld.com/article/23680...time_drop.html

Not good news because the major problem with Google+ is that when I go on it I only have a few friends using it. I have offered out invites to friends but most have declined.

Chris

[Mazrim]

I'm not sure how that's bad news. Now that G+ isn't shiny new, you're not going to spend large amounts of time checking it out, just for updates like normal. I still use it, but I don't have to go on for more than a minute to get up to date. I also attribute that to being able to sort out what I want to see quickly.

I imagine once G+ opens up past invite-only, things will pick up more.

EDIT: The article says it doesn't count app usage...I haven't been on the web version of G+ since the iPhone app came out.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I'm not sure how that's bad news. Now that G+ isn't shiny new, you're not going to spend large amounts of time checking it out, just for updates like normal. I still use it, but I don't have to go on for more than a minute to get up to date. I also attribute that to being able to sort out what I want to see quickly.

I imagine once G+ opens up past invite-only, things will pick up more.

EDIT: The article says it doesn't count app usage...I haven't been on the web version of G+ since the iPhone app came out.

Its funny, Google's previous model was they wanted to be transparent - they thought users wanted them as a service just to go from one page to another, and not spend time on it. (unlike Altavista, yahoo, etc, where you stay on their page and see top world news or whatev)

Then Facebook comes along, and pitches to their advertises the time users spend on their page and they destory Google for that. Google realizes they have to change, if Google is something users stay on for a few seconds then move onto somewhere else, while users stay on FB for minutes to hours.

So thus... G+... they want you on there. Be it their hangout area or whatever, their goal is to keep users on their page.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Its funny, Google's previous model was they wanted to be transparent - they thought users wanted them as a service just to go from one page to another, and not spend time on it. (unlike Altavista, yahoo, etc, where you stay on their page and see top world news or whatev)

Then Facebook comes along, and pitches to their advertises the time users spend on their page and they destory Google for that. Google realizes they have to change, if Google is something users stay on for a few seconds then move onto somewhere else, while users stay on FB for minutes to hours.

So thus... G+... they want you on there. Be it their hangout area or whatever, their goal is to keep users on their page.

Not too sure what your point is here...companies continually have to modify their business plans to stay current, especially in the high tech world. Google is merely trying to put a different spin on Facebook and frankly it's kind of refreshing.

[KTrain]

Here's a crappy glitch.

jaydorn deleted his account but he remained in my circles. So when I attempted to share a link with that circle it said that it would email him the link. That would get annoying if I deleted Google+.

[Flames0910]

Idk...gmail's big advantage over hotmail was tonnes and tonnes of space. It was unprecedented, actually.

Circles are well designed and hangouts are a great innovation but there isn't that instantly attractive hook that made gmail so insanely popular.

Not saying it won't succeed but I'm still firmly planted on the fence.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Not too sure what your point is here...companies continually have to modify their business plans to stay current, especially in the high tech world. Google is merely trying to put a different spin on Facebook and frankly it's kind of refreshing.

That's not called a business plan, is it? A business plan is a form of raising capital?

There's no real point, just ironic the way people think and the situation. The actual business, and the software architecture doesn't change. (i think)