Don't Bully Fat Kids

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Your guys' concern for the skinny a-hole and his family is blowing my mind.

Umm.. I never said I was concerned for the skinny a-hole or his family. The kid is obviously a turd. I would be more concerned for the fact that the big kid would have been in trouble for hurting the little kid, even though it's not fair. And, I was just saying that I hope my son, who is a big kid, wouldn't do the same thing in the same situation because I know he'd really hurt someone.

I didn't meant to appear insensitive to the kid who's being bullied.

I guess we know why the bullied kids get in trouble when they finally fight back - people like BBF must be in charge.

Totally unnecessary.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Umm.. I never said I was concerned for the skinny a-hole or his family. The kid is obviously a turd. I would be more concerned for the fact that the big kid would have been in trouble for hurting the little kid, even though it's not fair. And, I was just saying that I hope my son, who is a big kid, wouldn't do the same thing in the same situation because I know he'd really hurt someone.

I didn't meant to appear insensitive to the kid who's being bullied.

So what would your advice be to your son if some kid was punching him in the face? Stand there and take it?

What if the skinny kid (SK) broke the fat kid's (FK) nose? What if SK knocked out FK's teeth? What if SK gave FK a concussion?

Seems like your concern is over the "what ifs" and not with what actually happened.

But seriously, what would you tell your son if he was in FK's shoes?

[CaptainCrunch]

The only thing that the kid didn't do was come up with a clever pun when he was done.

BAMMMMM

"Has just been revoked"

"Is that enough dicker over the car for you"

"Kiyippee ai ahh Mr Falco"

"Reap the whirlwind . . . REAP IT"

[arloiginla]

I've noticed women always think that every situation can be remedied with words or some other non-violence. "Let's talk about this" doesn't work with bullies.

My mom would always encourage us to solve things peacefully or "go tell an adult." My dad, who understood these things much better, said "go stand up for yourself."

There ARE times when an ass kicking is needed. Regardless of what some women think.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

I've noticed women always think that every situation can be remedied with words or some other non-violence. "Let's talk about this" doesn't work with bullies.

My mom would always encourage us to solve things peacefully or "go tell an adult." My dad, who understood these things much better, said "go stand up for yourself."

There ARE times when an ass kicking is needed. Regardless of what some women think.

Yeah I can't wait to see what her solution is. Maybe she'll keep avoiding the question (I've asked her three times now).

[CaptainCrunch]

I would hope that if I had a son at 14 who was 6'4 and 220 pounds that he would convey enough confidence to never find himself in that situation.

Its the outcast kids, the fat, the tiny and the different colored that get bullied one on one because they're vulnerable and to an extent act like cowards.

One of the best lessons that a parent can teach their kids is how to handle themselves in a social setting so that they don't come across as weak or indecisive.

On another note, when I was in school and even in the military, it was always the quiet guys that were never looking for trouble that you didn't mess with, those guys tended to know what they were doing and didn't look for trouble.

It was the idiots, the braggers and the bullies that didn't know what they're doing and in the end took the beat downs when they stepped over the line.

You also had to look out for the comediatic fighters, those were the guys that would try to slam a trash can over your head, or toss you in to a dumpster because to them its hilarious.

[calgarybornnraised]

Fighting back sure worked for Ralphie in "A Christmas Story".

[NBC]

That little idiot got what he deserved. I have little sympathy for bullies and thugs who think it is ok to pick on or attack others. Hopefully he learned his lesson but being Australian I highly doubt it.

[Kybosh]

I'm an advocate of standing up for oneself, but I think the FK took it a little too far. I think he should have stood his ground and thrown a few punches instead of slamming the SK's head into the ground. I've never really been seriously bullied, so I'm not really sure what was going through his head.

When I first moved to Calgary, these three Catholic school kids (I was public) starting harassing me near my house after I got off the bus. I was new in town and wasn't having a particularly good day, so I wasn't in the mood for that crap. Eventually one of them decided to come push me from behind. I felt him put his hands on me and I quickly turned around and socked him in the jaw. He started falling down, so I pulled him back up with his shirt and gave him a few body shots. He crumpled with his shirt pulled up over his head. His friends didn't really know what to think and didn't come near me as a calmly walked into my house. I'm not a big guy, but I'm not someone that takes crap from bullies. Those guys learned that pretty quick. I guess I'm one of those quiet, unassuming guys that CC was talking about.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah I can't wait to see what her solution is. Maybe she'll keep avoiding the question (I've asked her three times now).

What's interesting to me, are definitions of 'bullying' behaviour.

• blustery: noisily domineering; tending to browbeat others

This must be a horribly touchy subject for you.


I already answered your question with one of my comments. My son is 6'4 and 205 pounds. I worry more about him hurting someone else. In football and basketball he's constantly baited to lose his temper, but he always keeps his cool and normally it's some other kid that gets a technical or a shoving foul or whatever. I would hope that over the years, I've taught him that if he wants respect, he's got to give it, and that he needs to know his own strength.

Hope that answer satisfies you. That's the best I've got.

[burn_this_city]

Bullying is a form of abuse. It involves repeated acts over time attempting to create or enforce one person's (or group's) power over another person (or group) , thus an "imbalance of power".[2] The "imbalance of power" may be social power and/or physical power. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. Bullying types of behavior are often rooted in a would-be bully's inability to empathize with those whom he or she would target.
Bullying consists of three basic types of abuse – emotional, verbal and physical. It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation. Bullying can be defined in many different ways. Although the UK currently has no legal definition of bullying,[3] some US states have laws against it.[4]
Bullying ranges from simple one on one bullying to more complex bullying in which the bully may have one or more 'lieutenants' who may seem to be willing to assist the primary bully in his bullying activities. Bullying in school and the workplace is also referred to as peer abuse.[5] Robert W. Fuller has analyzed bullying in the context of rankism.
Bullying can occur in any context in which human beings interact with each other. This includes school, church, family, the workplace, home and neighborhoods. It is even a common push factor in migration. Bullying can exist between social groups, social classes and even between countries (see Jingoism). In fact on an international scale, perceived or real imbalances of power between nations, in both economic systems and in treaty systems, are often cited as some of the primary causes of both World War I and World War II. [6] [7] Put simply, historically and from this perspective, certain international 'bullying' between nations is seen as having resulted in at least two very major and costly international wars.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

I already answered your question with one of my comments. My son is 6'4 and 205 pounds. I worry more about him hurting someone else. In football and basketball he's constantly baited to lose his temper, but he always keeps his cool and normally it's some other kid that gets a technical or a shoving foul or whatever. I would hope that over the years, I've taught him that if he wants respect, he's got to give it, and that he needs to know his own strength.

Hope that answer satisfies you. That's the best I've got.

Sorry, but the question plain and simple is "What would YOU have him do if he was the FK in the scenario in the video?"

[NBC]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I'm an advocate of standing up for oneself, but I think the FK took it a little too far. I think he should have stood his ground and thrown a few punches instead of slamming the SK's head into the ground. I've never really been seriously bullied, so I'm not really sure what was going through his head.

I'm dunno. The bigger boy might not have much of a clue on how to throw a decent punch and it is likely that he'd be slower than the other kid. Also, there is the chance that the bully would have known this and wanted to play to his advantage in a fist fight, not realizing that the bigger kid might resort to some form of grappling and throwing. I was bigger than most kids in school and never got into fights. But if I had, there is a good chance that I'd have done something similar. I think he just played to his obvious strength in the fight - he knew he could grab him and slam him into the ground, ending the fight that he obviously didn't want to get into.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

I was bullied as a kid because I was skinny and smaller than most in my school. Most of the bullying was usually verbal, but occasionally some guys would get physical. Normally I'd just fend off their shots and run away. However, once I was cornered by 2 guys and didn't have anywhere to run, so I fought. I took a slap to the face first, and then as another slap was coming my way, I ducked it and landed 2 quick hard jabs to the chin and a haymaker to the side of the jaw. First guy was done, and the second guy was a little cautious as he approached me. I ran.

I got in trouble for this the next day cause apparently I hurt the kid pretty badly (dislocated jaw), and also the fact that I was enrolled in a martial arts school. I also got a beating from my dad because of this lol.

And the kid who got hurt? Well, he got transferred out cause apparently I was the aggressor and bully, and his dad didn't want him to attend a school while I'm there.

Good times.

After you dislocated his jaw did you say "and thats why they call me Bruce!"

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by Sliver

So the fat kid is getting bullied by a group of kids and the skinny loser in particular, and you're worried about the bully's parents? WTF.

i am not worried about his parents, i empathize with them.

the little brat shouldnt be bullying, that still doesnt mean his parents wouldnt be deeply affected by seeing the life of their son flash before their eyes.

[The Yen Man]

I've never really been bullied when I was a kid, but I've seen other kids being bullied. Being a small, skinny Asian kid, I didn't really want to get involved whenever I saw it, and kind of kept quiet. Thinking back, I'm actually quite ashamed by that, but at the time, I didn't want them to target me if I had stepped in. Deep down though, I always hoped those bullies would get what's coming to them, so I admit, watching a video like this makes me feel kind of good inside. I guess you could say all of us who hates bullies are living vacariously through this kid.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by NBC

I'm dunno. The bigger boy might not have much of a clue on how to throw a decent punch and it is likely that he'd be slower than the other kid. Also, there is the chance that the bully would have known this and wanted to play to his advantage in a fist fight, not realizing that the bigger kid might resort to some form of grappling and throwing. I was bigger than most kids in school and never got into fights. But if I had, there is a good chance that I'd have done something similar. I think he just played to his obvious strength in the fight - he knew he could grab him and slam him into the ground, ending the fight that he obviously didn't want to get into.

Bottom line in that case to me, is if you're in that situation, you end it as quickly as possible because the longer a fight goes the more you lose control.

For me, I've always thrown a mean punch, I know how to grapple, but I didn't like doing it because I wasn't good at it.

This kid got control of the situation and removed the threat of taking more punches in the noggin, and he ended the situation in the quickest way possible.

If he was comfortable in throwing punches or fighting standup he probably would have done that.

Did he need to slam him down so hard, probably not, but at that point in a fight like that your pretty much driven by instinct and rage.

Unless your a professional fighter you instinct fight, thats why so many people suck at it.

[NBC]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Bottom line in that case to me, is if you're in that situation, you end it as quickly as possible because the longer a fight goes the more you lose control.

For me, I've always thrown a mean punch, I know how to grapple, but I didn't like doing it because I wasn't good at it.

This kid got control of the situation and removed the threat of taking more punches in the noggin, and he ended the situation in the quickest way possible.

If he was comfortable in throwing punches or fighting standup he probably would have done that.

Did he need to slam him down so hard, probably not, but at that point in a fight like that your pretty much driven by instinct and rage.

Unless your a professional fighter you instinct fight, thats why so many people suck at it.

I agree completely Cap'n. You definitely play to your strengths. Some guys can throw a decent punch, others can't. This young fella most likely did what was instinctive for him.

I went to a few rough schools - the junior high was particularly odious. Bullies ran riot over many an unsuspecting kid. Though I was never really a target, something about seeing an idiot like that - regardless of age - get his comeuppance, is fine by me.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

At any time of day, beginning, middle or end- the only thing violence measures is levels of ignorance and arrogance.

I'd take Churchill over Chamberlain any day.

[CaptainCrunch]

Jeez going back through this thread, I'm coming across as a bit of a monster.

Sooooo

Remember kids . . . fightings not cool.