2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Would rather someone else give him double his current salary for 7-8 years. We also have Parekh, Brzustewicz, and Mews in the pipeline.

I'm not advocating for keeping him ... the contract would have to make sense. But I don't see him not being part of the solution at his age / role / skillset.

There is a very good chance that only one of those players ever get to Andersson's level.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

If Andresson gets tarded, then Vladar and Wolf are going to be in tough next season. Weeger will be the only proven NHL defenceman on the team.

Wooooooah....

[stemit14]

Andersson is the most valuable veteran asset left on the team (with the exception of Weegar who I think is going to stay through the rebuild). Hoping it’s a return of at least a 1st + 2nd + prospect with value equivalent to a 2nd round pick. Alternatively, would love to get an A-level prospect for him but it’s very rare for teams to trade those.

I mentioned in a previous post that my “3D chess” scenario is that Utah goes on a surprise run this season and is in the top 3 of the division near the trade deadline. Hope that they are a high-scoring team that needs defence. Their new ownership would be eager to go on a run so they may be hungry to buy at the deadline. My ultimate plan would be for Andersson to be the big piece in a trade for Tij Iginla. I am still bitter they stole him from us. The flames may have to add in a trade with Andersson and Iginla as the key pieces being traded. Would be fine including a retained Coleman even. I’m a big fan of Tij so I’m probably too eager to pay a big price to get him.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Wooooooah....

How to say the R word without saying the R word. Which brings up the "re" part suggests that you were once in the past.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

At his age I wouldn't say Andersson wouldn't be or can't be part of the solution. His next contract is 29-37 which wouldn't be the end of the world for term.

We should be steering clear of any 8 year deals for 30 plus players, he will turn 30 a few weeks into the season when the contract starts.

Him asking for a trade is a blessing.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We should be steering clear of any 8 year deals for 30 plus players, he will turn 30 a few weeks into the season when the contract starts.

Him asking for a trade is a blessing.

I'm not one for hard line rules.

Each player is unique.

29-37 is better than say 32-40.

And Andersson is a pretty important part of the dressing room, and a guy that found fitness later in life and gets it.

Once again if he wants out so be it, and if he stays it would have to be a contract that makes sense, ... but count me out of paint yourself into a corner rules

[Kipper_3434]

Half the league could use Anderson, could be a lovely bidding war

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Andersson is the most valuable veteran asset left on the team (with the exception of Weegar who I think is going to stay through the rebuild). Hoping it’s a return of at least a 1st + 2nd + prospect with value equivalent to a 2nd round pick. Alternatively, would love to get an A-level prospect for him but it’s very rare for teams to trade those.

I mentioned in a previous post that my “3D chess” scenario is that Utah goes on a surprise run this season and is in the top 3 of the division near the trade deadline. Hope that they are a high-scoring team that needs defence. Their new ownership would be eager to go on a run so they may be hungry to buy at the deadline. My ultimate plan would be for Andersson to be the big piece in a trade for Tij Iginla. I am still bitter they stole him from us. The flames may have to add in a trade with Andersson and Iginla as the key pieces being traded. Would be fine including a retained Coleman even. I’m a big fan of Tij so I’m probably too eager to pay a big price to get him.

Getting Iginla would be awesome, but that would be a huge overpayment.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm not one for hard line rules.

Each player is unique.

29-37 is better than say 32-40.

And Andersson is a pretty important part of the dressing room, and a guy that found fitness later in life and gets it.

Once again if he wants out so be it, and if he stays it would have to be a contract that makes sense, ... but count me out of paint yourself into a corner rules

I agree. signing at 29 gives you value for the first half of the contract and makes it easier to manage the back half because the player could still be playing to the contract and if not, the contract doesn't have as may negative years.

[gvitaly]

If Andersson is on the market then there will be 31 other teams interested, depending on the asking price.

I wonder what Andersson with a 50% retention is worth? I think that's at least 2 x 1sts.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

If Andersson is on the market then there will be 31 other teams interested, depending on the asking price.

I wonder what Andersson with a 50% retention is worth? I think that's at least 2 x 1sts.

Andersson also hold cards here, depends what he wants. I don't see teams lining up if he isn't willing to re-sign with them, he may simply want to go to a contender at this point of his career.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Andersson also hold cards here, depends what he wants. I don't see teams lining up if he isn't willing to re-sign with them, he may simply want to go to a contender at this point of his career.

He's got two years left on his deal... probability of extension isn't really part of the equation yet.

I'm not sure what he would return in Trade... a 1st+ for sure but what the range on the + is I really don't know.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Just a guy

How to say the R word without saying the R word. Which brings up the "re" part suggests that you were once in the past.

If Andersson is traded, the Flames are clearly going full re....build.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I think his maximum value is approaching the deadline this season. Perhaps a few weeks ahead of the deadline. As a deadline acquisition + 1 year remaining at a reasonable hit - that's a lot of value. But I think you wait for then, so that the possible teams expands. Right now, the market would be compressed.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Getting Iginla would be awesome, but that would be a huge overpayment.

Maybe. But I think Iginla is going to have a big World Juniors. At which point, his value will be even higher.

Without prioritizing acquiring a top tier talent in a trade, I think Andersson and Coleman will likely return something around this equivalent:

Andersson: 1st round pick + 2nd round pick + 2nd round pick + B-level prospect

Coleman(50% retained): 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick

Personally, I would rather get a single A-level prospect like Iginla instead of those picks. It can be argued that those picks combined are worth more but Conroy has already done a few trades that have accrued multiple picks and B-level prospects/young players - which is great. I’m happy with the trades he’s made so far. I would just like to see a trade where he acquires a top prospect in the league since he is trading a player that should be worth more than any player he has traded so far.

Of course, it takes two teams to make a trade. Lots of teams simply will not entertain trading their top prospect. Utah may have that stance with Tij Iginla. My hope is that the ransom they tried to hold over the Tij Iginla pick at the draft opens the door to them being willing to trade him this season. It all depends on Utah breaking out this season - which is unlikely to begin with. But I’ll still hope for it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

You've hit it on the head though. How often do teams trade top level prospects, unless they are forced to (e.g. Gauthier). Andersson doesn't change their near-term outcomes enough to sacrifice the long-term hit they take by trading Iginla.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Maybe. But I think Iginla is going to have a big World Juniors. At which point, his value will be even higher.

Without prioritizing acquiring a top tier talent in a trade, I think Andersson and Coleman will likely return something around this equivalent:

Andersson: 1st round pick + 2nd round pick + 2nd round pick + B-level prospect

Coleman(50% retained): 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick

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Coleman is worth significantly more than that with that type of retention.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You've hit it on the head though. How often do teams trade top level prospects, unless they are forced to (e.g. Gauthier). Andersson doesn't change their near-term outcomes enough to sacrifice the long-term hit they take by trading Iginla.

Exactly. So it may take the flames overpaying to get him. I mentioned Andersson + Coleman (50% retained) for Tij Iginla. But in reality, the age of those players would make it so they are likely not interested. It might take including a prospect from the flames like Honzek as well.

It’s likely a moot point as you said… teams just don’t trade their top prospect unless they are forced to.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Coleman(50% retained): 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick.

That's valuating a 2nd or 3rd round pick at 7.35 Million dollars (real dollars and cap space) assuming that part of that return is for Coleman's performance value. Seems steep to me on it's own.

Might make sense as part of a larger package as discussed though.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

If Andresson gets tarded, then Vladar and Wolf are going to be in tough next season. Weeger will be the only proven NHL defenceman on the team.

If Andersson gets what now

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