11-21-2023, 02:33 PM
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#9961
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kelowna, BC
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i thought of a great promo for the oilers that sportsnet should be all over...
david spade is in that goofy suit and blurts out, "edmonton oilers... cup contenders or SNAKE OIL!!?!? find out tonight, 8pm on sportsnet!"
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11-21-2023, 02:41 PM
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#9962
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Yeah you can create a much longer list.
As it stands, McDavid is probably the best player to not win a cup or get to a final.
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Iggy... 
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11-21-2023, 02:47 PM
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#9963
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Locke
Iggy... |
Got to a final.
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11-21-2023, 02:50 PM
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#9964
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11-21-2023, 02:56 PM
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#9965
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by mile
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I've been known to do this, from time to time.
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11-21-2023, 03:23 PM
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#9966
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All I can get
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Simmons spitballing here... but these musings often take on a life of their own.
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GM Ken Holland will be gone at the end of the season — his call — and I wouldn’t be surprised if Dave Gagner, whose son plays for the Oilers and is another former McDavid associate and a close Jackson friend, is brought in to be Oilers GM …
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https://torontosun.com/sports/simmon...-grey-cup-game
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11-21-2023, 03:25 PM
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#9967
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Originally Posted by Locke
Iggy... |
The list probably includes the likes of Marcel Dionne, Iggy, Hawerchuk, Gilbert Perreault, Mats Sundin, The Sedins, etc.
So a clear tier below the generational type of talent that McDavid is.
Of course he has many years ahead of him, but the point is, it is stunning that Edmonton hasn't been able to get close with him and Leon on the team.
It's a remarkable level of failure. And must be incredibly frustrating as a fan.
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11-21-2023, 03:33 PM
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#9968
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The list probably includes the likes of Marcel Dionne, Iggy, Hawerchuk, Gilbert Perreault, Mats Sundin, The Sedins, etc.
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Iginla and the Sedins did at least make the finals, which was your original criterion.
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11-21-2023, 03:42 PM
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#9969
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The list probably includes the likes of Marcel Dionne, Iggy, Hawerchuk, Gilbert Perreault, Mats Sundin, The Sedins, etc.
So a clear tier below the generational type of talent that McDavid is.
Of course he has many years ahead of him, but the point is, it is stunning that Edmonton hasn't been able to get close with him and Leon on the team.
It's a remarkable level of failure. And must be incredibly frustrating as a fan.
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Hasn't been able to get close?!?!?!
Ahhhh, they did lose to the cup champions...twice!!!!
You can't get any closer than that!*
*you can, in fact, get much closer than that,
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11-21-2023, 03:48 PM
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#9970
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Hasn't been able to get close?!?!?!
Ahhhh, they did lose to the cup champions...twice!!!!
You can't get any closer than that!*
*you can, in fact, get much closer than that,
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If you include losing to the Stanley cup champion as the criteria for being close, then the list of players that have been “close” to winning a Stanley cup is enormous. This exercise was simply focusing on generational players that have played in the Stanley cup final. And I can’t think of any other than McDavid that have not made to at least one Stanley Cup final.
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11-21-2023, 03:58 PM
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#9972
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Franchise Player
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Era adjusted points, McDavid will have the most points without winning a cup.
Joe Thornton, Marcel Dionne, Jarome Iginla, Mats Sundin, and Adam Oates are the top five from I can tell looking at the list. He is probably close to breaking the top 20 this year.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/lea...ed_career.html
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11-21-2023, 04:18 PM
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#9973
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Iginla and the Sedins did at least make the finals, which was your original criterion.
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the other name, in the 'made the finals' category, that although was hampered by injuries, but was supernova to start his career was Lindros
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11-21-2023, 04:30 PM
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#9974
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
If you include losing to the Stanley cup champion as the criteria for being close, then the list of players that have been “close” to winning a Stanley cup is enormous. This exercise was simply focusing on generational players that have played in the Stanley cup final. And I can’t think of any other than McDavid that have not made to at least one Stanley Cup final.
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Man I hate having to explain jokes*
*I, in fact, love explaining jokes. Especially if I get to use the same premise to do it.
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11-21-2023, 04:33 PM
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#9975
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The list probably includes the likes of Marcel Dionne, Iggy, Hawerchuk, Gilbert Perreault, Mats Sundin, The Sedins, etc.
So a clear tier below the generational type of talent that McDavid is.
Of course he has many years ahead of him, but the point is, it is stunning that Edmonton hasn't been able to get close with him and Leon on the team.
It's a remarkable level of failure. And must be incredibly frustrating as a fan.
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the other thing is that a lot of these guys- as pointed out- eventually at least made a finals (and of course there is still time for you know who)
Perreault took a near expansion team there in year 5 before his team getting stuck behind the Habs and Isles for the rest of his prime
Iggy and Kipper dragged Shean Donovan et al there
Oates a few times eventually
but Dionne, man. never even made it to the Semis I don't think, despite retiring was it 2nd overall in scoring when he hung them up?
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11-21-2023, 04:40 PM
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#9976
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Dionne never won a best-of-7 series in his career. Early in his time with the Kings, they won a couple best-of-3 Preliminary round series. The Miracle on Manchester in 1982 was the only best-of-5 series he won.
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11-21-2023, 04:42 PM
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#9977
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All I can get
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Also: None of them fellers played for the Oilers.
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11-21-2023, 04:45 PM
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#9978
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne
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There are so many contenders!
How does one pick just ten?
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 11-21-2023 at 04:56 PM.
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11-21-2023, 04:54 PM
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#9979
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by Jacks
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There were more flybys than an airshow!
There were more flybys than a Tom Cruise movie!
There were more flybys than _______________________ (Now you try!) 
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11-21-2023, 04:58 PM
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#9980
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The list probably includes the likes of Marcel Dionne, Iggy, Hawerchuk, Gilbert Perreault, Mats Sundin, The Sedins, etc.
So a clear tier below the generational type of talent that McDavid is.
Of course he has many years ahead of him, but the point is, it is stunning that Edmonton hasn't been able to get close with him and Leon on the team.
It's a remarkable level of failure. And must be incredibly frustrating as a fan.
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Thanked specifically for “Its a remarkable level of failure.”
If that’s not the perfect E=NG thread title, I don’t know what is.
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