American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[timun]

Dominion Voting Systems don't care about exposing Fox News for the shameless liars, propagandists and charlatans they are: they just want to be made whole financially. It's in the company's best financial interest to settle and move on, rather than drag the court action out and pay a ton of legal fees.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Not sure how accurate my Google findings were, but they suggest Dominion's peak revenue was $17.5M in 2022. $787M is quite the payday for them if that revenue number is accurate.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Dominion rebrands under a new name and Fox carries on business as usual.

[MoneyGuy]

This settlement is for Faux News’ lies about Dominion but what about its other lies, of which there are many? Faux should see some punishment for other lies. (I know this suit was only related to Dominion.)

[Monahammer]

Society shouldn't leave the enforcement of journalistic standards to a court case involving plaintiffs with a fiduciary duty to maximize corporate profits.

No one can or should fault Dominion for settling this suit. It is ridiculous that we are in a position where hopes for societal recompense were rested on a wholly capitalist court case.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Try to explain to them that Jesus was the first communist and see their heads really explode

Or that their beloved Russia was part of a communist country not too long ago.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Dominion still pursuing others like OAN, NewsMax, Pillow Guy, etc.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/were-n...ox-settlement/

[Coach]

I don't fault Dominion for taking the cash. It's like 20x their company value so good for them.

It shouldn't fall to Dominion to hold Fox accountable. Basically any American citizen could sue them for the same thing. The federal government itself should be the one suing them for societal damages. But of course that would be politicized.

Really was hoping Dominion would tell them to shove it, but the original amount basically made it so Fox had to pay them a ridiculous sum of money to avoid this, it's telling that they were willing to shell out that much just to avoid On-Air apologies. My guess is that point is what kept the settlement price rising.

[Robbob]

I am sure Dominion is happy Fox not needing to advertise this. They are probably just waiting for the next election cycle to get another cool quarter billion dollars.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Coach

I don't fault Dominion for taking the cash. It's like 20x their company value so good for them.

It shouldn't fall to Dominion to hold Fox accountable. Basically any American citizen could sue them for the same thing. The federal government itself should be the one suing them for societal damages. But of course that would be politicized.

Really was hoping Dominion would tell them to shove it, but the original amount basically made it so Fox had to pay them a ridiculous sum of money to avoid this, it's telling that they were willing to shell out that much just to avoid On-Air apologies. My guess is that point is what kept the settlement price rising.

Yeah, i suspect there were issues with the 1.6 billion number and proving that amount of loss. Really, any lawsuit like this is going to over-inflate that number.

While there would likely have been some punitive damages, the court can only compensate Dominion for Dominion's actual losses. Not to mention, the likelihood that these overt lies actually resulted in losses to the company would be interesting. I suspect most investors/clients/vendors knew how crazy the allegations were and it didn't rate in their overall performance as much as claimed

This seems like an overpay to have Fox save face. Dominion probably taking this as a huge win

[MoneyGuy]

Now do: Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell, Newsmax, Oan, and Marjorie Traitor Greene (if she doesn’t have immunity as an elected official).

[driveway]

The uber-MAGA sections of the internet are unhappy, but in absolutely no way has their thinking about the election been impacted:

Now it looks like Dominion is clean and no evidence gets presented (again) and Fox has cover to continue NOT covering anything related to election crimes.

Dominion machines are designed in a way that allows election crimes to happen VERY easily.

Avoiding discovery prevents the exposure of evidence Fox was in on the theft of the election.

They weren't cowards. They were in on it. When is the last time you heard of a settlement in a civil suit like this that was this large? Almost always those settlements are confidential. They released this number specifically as a boost to dominion. To make muh election deniers look stupid.

This was payment from Fox News to Dominion si8nce we all know Fox was involved with the steal. This is a way to transfer $750 million without suspicion.

[MoneyGuy]

If you’re on Twitter give @harryjsisson a follow. He’s a teen who effectively taunts Republicans and their supporters. The guy’s headed to a future political career. He has over 134,000 followers and went after Fox News today.

[oldschoolcalgary]

I love how that the rationale now is somehow Fox, the guys getting sued for defamation, are suddenly a part of the election fraud?! That they'd willingly hand over $ 787.5 million dollars to a company "connected to Hugo Chavez"...

It doesn't matter what the facts are, the raging right will spin it so it suits their narrative.

I keep waiting for the 'mountains' of evidence the mouth breathers keep citing...

Cannot wait until the other lawsuits begin proceedings.

[photon]

That's the great thing about magical conspiracy thinking, no matter what happens it's all part of the conspiracy.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by driveway

The uber-MAGA sections of the internet are unhappy, but in absolutely no way has their thinking about the election been impacted:

haha jesus christ

[GGG]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

That leaded gas of the 1960’s is really haunting us now.

https://www.fatherly.com/news/leaded...lion-americans

One of the main reasons for the reduction in violent crimes was the elimination of lead as the post 1970s cohorts made there way through the violent 16-30 age range.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Could build an arena for that!

Or a hockey team!

The Fox News Lies Dominion Voting Machine Democracy Saddledome

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by GGG

One of the main reasons for the reduction in violent crimes was the elimination of lead as the post 1970s cohorts made there way through the violent 16-30 age range.

I think you could make a much better case for Roe v. Wade than lead

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I think you could make a much better case for Roe v. Wade than lead

So the original freakanomics economist Steve Levitt wrote the original paper showing the abortion effect dominating. Then some economists pointed out errors in that paper which reduced its affect but did not change the underlying conclusion. Another economist Jessica Wolpaw Reyes then wrote a paper on the affects of lead in gasoline showing it was the dominant effect.

Then they got together and discussed it and did some research and the freakanomics podcast recently did an episode on it

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/abo...ime-revisited/

Spoiler!

both had a significant affect.