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Old 10-10-2025, 09:57 AM   #9801
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Sharangovich is stuck with us for the foreseeable future. I don't know what the funk is, but he needs to get out of it. Maybe we need to plant him with Backs and Coleman. I trust Zary to be able to contribute on any line. Sharangovich is beginning to look like someone that is very dependent on a play driver like Backlund to get things going.
Sharky is another project that CC took on.

Yegor seems like a good kid, good attitude. But he only thrives in a very limited parameter set. He is an offensive specialist, and when his game is not there he doesn't do enough of the other defense/checking things well. He tries, but isn't very good at doing those other things.

If he was a complete player, producing a steady offensive output he would be valuable here and desired around the league, just like Farabee would be. It's a bummer that we extended him in retrospect, so far.

Sometimes a project doesn't work out. Sometimes the other experts (GMs and scouts at the other team) know what they are doing when they look for ways to dump a player.

We had room, development time, for projects like this so I don't fault CC. And maybe the project isn't done yet, but that is mostly on Yegor.
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Old 10-10-2025, 09:58 AM   #9802
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Sharangovich might end up a Neal/Lucic situation. Curious if there are any 23-28 year old defencemen or centers on longer deals that aren’t quite living up to hefty contracts that teams might be willing to gamble a swap for.

Or he puts up another quietly good season.
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With the cap increasing, Farabee will retain value as a 3rd 4th line player for the club over a buyout situation. He can jam even if he's not scoring. The buyout would just be throwing away money.

Sharky, meh. Guy is a plug. Did he have a kid or something over the last year? Hard to believe it's the same guy that scored 30. If he can get lucky and throw together some points IMO we should be trying to retain to slide him out for a midrounder. Maybe someone can be fooled on size and ~20 goal output but the guy looks lost out there often.

Coleman, Rasmus... Already should have traded both. Best time was yesterday, second best today and so on. Their play is not boosting their trade value and IMO they are just blocking other players.

I feel as though our club will hang on to these players at least until the trade deadline and fail to trade more than 1.

None of this really matters. It's only a game.
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Old 10-10-2025, 10:00 AM   #9804
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I'd ask San Jose about a Ferraro for Sharangovich swap.

They have the capspace, a huge need for scoring, and an great deal of LD depth (Orlov, Leddy, Mukhamadullin, Dickinson, Ferraro)
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On the other hand, both Farabee and Sharangovich are right in the production realm you expect from them, which is roughly 1 goal every 4 games and 1 point every 2 games.

It’s been two games. They both have a point. Not sure there’s a lot to criticize there yet.
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Old 10-10-2025, 10:45 AM   #9806
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Worst case scenario: Maybe Farabee is a buyout candidate in the future and Sharky stays as a 13th fwd that can be plugged into any line?
He's been one of the teams better players to start the season, and certainly was the team's most snake bitten forwards after the trade last year.

This year he's on the 2nd PK unit and has done well.

I don't think the team or Huska share your view of this player at all.

I think he's a third line guy when Huberdeau comes back, but he's not going to be bought out.
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Gridin and Kerins right now
Suniev and Honzek soon
(Battaglia, Basha, and others coming up)
Kerins is a Center and was clearly not ready yet.

It is really only Gridin that beat out Farabee in camp. So there is no reason to move him out.

Gifting young kids roster spots is how you become Buffalo and pre-McDavid Edmonton
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Old 10-10-2025, 11:25 AM   #9808
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He's been one of the teams better players to start the season, and certainly was the team's most snake bitten forwards after the trade last year.

This year he's on the 2nd PK unit and has done well.

I don't think the team or Huska share your view of this player at all.

I think he's a third line guy when Huberdeau comes back, but he's not going to be bought out.
Yup and I think he slots into Coleman's role full time whenever Coleman is eventually traded.
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They have the capspace, a huge need for scoring
so do we, especially the bolded.
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Old 10-10-2025, 11:32 AM   #9810
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Bichsel + Bourque for Coleman + Andersson would be fine for me at this point.

It's probably not what some are hoping for, but it is two former 1sts with varying degrees of potential left and who are not getting opportunities (and unlikely to in the near future).

Gives us a big LHD and another bullet in the chamber trying to hit on a RHC prospect, while steeling Dallas for a run or two for pretty cheap. Maybe you could squeeze a 2nd on top for some retention.
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Bichsel + Bourque for Coleman + Andersson would be fine for me at this point.

It's probably not what some are hoping for, but it is two former 1sts with varying degrees of potential left and who are not getting opportunities (and unlikely to in the near future).

Gives us a big LHD and another bullet in the chamber trying to hit on a RHC prospect, while steeling Dallas for a run or two for pretty cheap. Maybe you could squeeze a 2nd on top for some retention.
I'd prefer Bischel + 1st.
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Sharangovich might end up a Neal/Lucic situation. Curious if there are any 23-28 year old defencemen or centers on longer deals that aren’t quite living up to hefty contracts that teams might be willing to gamble a swap for.

Or he puts up another quietly good season.

I think if he puts up another good season the Flames could likely get something of more value than a Neal/Lucic type swap. Not thinking anything spectacular but maybe a b-level prospect or a late round pick.

I don't think teams would be deterred by his contract with the cap going up next year too.
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Old 10-10-2025, 11:57 AM   #9813
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I like somebody's idea to put Yegor with Backlund and Coleman. The guys that always help you get out of a funk.
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Was there any rumour that Coleman is being shopped or just that his contract expires next year and wishful thinking? I doubt he goes anywhere this year unless a team blows Conroy's socks off. He's certainly not a throw-in.

He fits the mold of what the team is building, so I don't see the team giving him up unless they're out of contention at next year's trade deadline (or the socks thing).

[EDIT] If Calgary isn't in contention at this year's trade deadline, and he plays the season like he has so far, I could see Calgary getting a pretty big offer for him. That's where the socks might come off.

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Old 10-10-2025, 12:32 PM   #9815
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Given Zarys luck, he'll be down with injury and Yegs can take his slot.
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I'd prefer Bischel + 1st.
It's interesting but I think 1sts have more value again this year. Draft crop looks pretty good, there's unknowns about the next "shelf" of cap increases but known increases in the nearer term, and the shiny new toy syndrome. We were lucky to get Vegas' further out.

It could be argued that the stars would prefer to keep Bourque for a nearer term, cheap additive to their lineup, but they also have guys like Chase Wheatcroft or Emil Hemming in the AHL that can probably fill the same role.

I would prefer the trade you outlined, but I am not sure we can get it.
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Has a player ever been traded in the 1st year of a long term contract, by the same GM who signed the player to that contract?
Matthew Tkachuk

Edit: holy late to the party.
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I'd ask San Jose about a Ferraro for Sharangovich swap.

They have the capspace, a huge need for scoring, and an great deal of LD depth (Orlov, Leddy, Mukhamadullin, Dickinson, Ferraro)
Mattias Samuelsson in Buffalo for Sharangovich could be another one.

Sabres could use a scoring winger, Flames need a LH dman
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