Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

The text I got was “they stitched his name on the jersey and made the phone call, they may trade down to do it if they can”

Ugh.

[Toonage]

What phone call could they have made? They can't promise the kid they'll draft him. What guarantees could possibly be made?

And there is also another rumor in the trade thread I believe about the Habs trading #5 for Zegras.

Bottom line - We won't know until we know. Or until Bob McKenzie spoils it seconds before the pick is announced.

[Tbull8]

Imagine the habs trade down because they think Tij will be available at 10-12. Just for the flames to take him 9 anyways.

[bax]

I would be pumped if they drafted Tij.

Too many people here are getting caught up on position. The Flames will be pretty bad for 3-5 seasons here. There will be tons of ammo to draft centers and defenseman. Just take the BPA.

[Tbull8]

You also wonder how many things are being “leaked” right now to get teams to panic and make a move up to their pick. Lots of things say they also really want Sennecke but 5 is too much of a reach.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Imagine the habs trade down because they think Tij will be available at 10-12. Just for the flames to take him 9 anyways.

If the flames could score another 1st like the NJ one, I would consider that, but not to pick Tij. I'd want to come out with Buium and hope Tij is there at 10. But I suppose that would involve trusting Montreal a lot.

Markstrom + Coronato for 10th and Holtz

9th + our 2nd to move up to 5th

Take Buium and Iginla (Habs take Sennecke...)

That would be dandy. Doubt it could ever work but frankly that's the only type of trade up scenario I'd want.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by bax

I would be pumped if they drafted Tij.

Too many people here are getting caught up on position. The Flames will be pretty bad for 3-5 seasons here. There will be tons of ammo to draft centers and defenseman. Just take the BPA.

You have to take the BPA at 9 and if that is Tij - so be it. I don't want the team pushing chips in to draft a C unless they are certainly being drafted where they should be on the teams list. The Flames can't be picking and choosing and hope to make it work with such a need for blue chip talent in the system. Stick to the list and move on.

If you positionally need to take 1C you can do it with the 28th pick as there is a ton of C talent stacking up in the 20-32 range as well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well all the players we are discussing around where the Flames pick are game breakers at their position and their level. If you can pick a game breakers on defense or center you take that over a game breaker at winger.

This seems a little optomistic on a whole lot of them. I see the list and I don't see a lot of guaranteed elite players, if any.

[Freeway]

Two notes:

1) After the top three or so, I wouldn't rule out anything in the draft in terms of who could go where.
2) Everybody lies before the draft about their interest because they have a big incentive to do so.

[bdubbs]

I trust the Flames amateur scouting more than I do their pro scouting, so whoever they pick will be fine. Tij or not. I do love me a good storyline, though. Imagine drafting both Tij and Joe in 2026...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

This seems a little optomistic on a whole lot of them. I see the list and I don't see a lot of guaranteed elite players, if any.

That's the crapshoot of the draft. I'm sure there will be a couple elite players here but nobody really knows which ones will flourish and which will bust. Given the amount of defensemen ranked in the top 20 I would imagine that's the position that may end up producing an elite player or more.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's the crapshoot of the draft. I'm sure there will be a couple elite players here but nobody really knows which ones will flourish and which will bust. Given the amount of defensemen ranked in the top 20 I would imagine that's the position that may end up producing an elite player or more.

I know, but you said the centres and dmen are all gamebreakers at their position. I actually don't see that. They look like decent players. I don't see a lot of game breakers.

The guys still playing who are being "game-breakers" in the POs include a lot of wingers: Robertson, Reinhart, Tkachuk, Hyman.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

If the flames could score another 1st like the NJ one, I would consider that, but not to pick Tij. I'd want to come out with Buium and hope Tij is there at 10. But I suppose that would involve trusting Montreal a lot.

Markstrom + Coronato for 10th and Holtz

9th + our 2nd to move up to 5th

Take Buium and Iginla (Habs take Sennecke...)

That would be dandy. Doubt it could ever work but frankly that's the only type of trade up scenario I'd want.

Trading Coronato is one of the last things we should be considering..

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Trading Coronato is one of the last things we should be considering..

I was going to say the same. Of all the prospects that the Flames have, other than Wolf, Coronato has the highest potential to take a huge step. He feels very Jason Robertson to me... just got to throw him a Roope.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I know, but you said the centres and dmen are all gamebreakers at their position. I actually don't see that. They look like decent players. I don't see a lot of game breakers.

The guys still playing who are being "game-breakers" in the POs include a lot of wingers: Robertson, Reinhart, Tkachuk, Hyman.

No you read my post wrong. Another poster regarded Tij as a gamebreaker at his current level and my post was picking center and defensemen gambreakers over winger at their current level, not NHL. I have no idea how many players in this draft will be gamebreakers or who they will be. Nobody does.

BTW: Hyman is more Tim Kerr than gamebreaker. He's not creating or scoring off the rush. He's just opportunistically cashing in around the net.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

No you read my post wrong. Another poster regarded Tij as a gamebreaker at his current level and my post was picking center and defensemen gambreakers over winger at their current level, not NHL. I have no idea how many players in this draft will be gamebreakers or who they will be. Nobody does.

BTW: Hyman is more Tim Kerr than gamebreaker. He's not creating or scoring off the rush. He's just opportunistically cashing in around the net.

I missed "at their level" in your post. Fair enough (Coronato was a game breaker at his level).

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well all the players we are discussing around where the Flames pick are game breakers at their position and their level. If you can pick a game breakers on defense or center you take that over a game breaker at winger.

Say “game breaker” again.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's the crapshoot of the draft. I'm sure there will be a couple elite players here but nobody really knows which ones will flourish and which will bust. Given the amount of defensemen ranked in the top 20 I would imagine that's the position that may end up producing an elite player or more.

I don't know. Unless the player has serious top pairing potential, and I mean a legit do it all, top pairing defender, it's hard to advocate for a team like Calgary going after a D with the 9th OA pick. There's a number of guys that might fit that billing, but there's also a few that are serious red flags for me.

If it comes down taking one of the boom/bust D or going for Catton/Helenius/Tij I know where I would be going. If Buium or Dickenson are available at 9 as well it is going to be a real tough pick IMO.

[FlamesAddiction]

If 5 defensemen go in the top 8, which is possible, then the Flames could possibly get the 4th best forward available in the draft. Unless the forwards in the top part of the draft of inferior than in typical drafts, that actually seems more appealing to me than taking a defenseman.

[Tbull8]

I want Tij but if he's gone and we get Catton I'll be pretty excited. I think both are going to be core pieces of their teams moving forward, so the tie to me goes to Tij for the storyline. Now if we can get 10th from NJ for Markstrom and get both.... or Tij + Yak, I'd be ecstatic