[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Still not a fan of this trade after having a moment to process it, but there’s no doubt there’s a whole host of questions that need to be addressed:

1. So Tre has found his Johnny Gaudreau replacement, where will he find his Matthew Tkachuk or other RW replacement?

2. Have the Flames actually improved from last season’s team?

3. After playing in a no state tax, how will Huberdeau react to $500,000 less take home pay

4. Will both players like snowy winters after living in Florida for so many years?

5. How much time does it take the new guys to gel with their new linemates?

6. How will they react to Darryl Sutter’s abrasive coaching style?

7. After years of CP lamenting about Tkachuk/Gaudreau’s playoff performances, the same applies for Huberdeau, how does he buck the trend?

8. Will Brad Treliving trade both Huberdeau and Weager if they both remain un-signed and we sit comfortably in a playoff position

9. With the Weager addition, what happens to Kylington? Is he traded? does he re-sign long term? short term? Does he still play with Tanev? Does Weager end up on the third pair?

10. How would the fanbase ultimately react if the team ends up suffering a quick playoff exit next season and lose both Weager and Huberdeau for nothing next summer?

I think you're overthinking it.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I was potentially thinking Hanifin ...

Jettison the American and get a Swede. I like it lol

[Racki]

Originally Posted by devo22

no, they can sign anytime.

This is what I thought, made no sense to me. Just making sure I wasn’t missing something.

[Eric Vail]

Remember last season when everyone was screaming to trade Gaudreau and Tkachuk and get what they could for them to change the face of the team.

Gaudreau had 49 points in 56 games.
Tkachuk had 43 points in 56 games.

I don't believe the Flames get the return from these two a year ago that they got tonight for Tkachuk.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

For the first time since the playoffs ended, I'm starting to get excited for next season.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

As someone who learns about play styles through banger fantasy leagues, I'm thrilled Weegar was involved. Not only is he defensively sound, he put up 203 shots, 179 hits, and 156 blocks.

Dude is what you call a Multi Cat Monster! If you want a decent comparable, think Jacob Trouba.

Oh, haven't you heard or read? Weegar has brain farts.

[SportsJunky]

Tanev
Andersson
Weegar
Hanifin
Kylington
Zadorov
Valimaki
Mackey

Not bad.

[devo22]

I think adding Weegar actually excites me more than adding Huberdeau. And I ####ing LOVE adding Huberdeau.

[Jiggy_12]

How can anyone “not be a fan of this trade” ?

Tkachuk was gone. No matter what he was gone.

So let’s say Huberdeau makes it clear he won’t sign here (just for fun speculation sake). Ok, fine. So we still have the prospect and the first round pick.

Plus we have Weegar. Let’s say Weegar signs. We have a top d-man, a good prospect and a first. Let’s say Weegar doesn’t sign. Then we trade him for at least another first.

Then we trade Huberdeau for at least another 1st.

So worst case is we get three 1st round picks plus a good prospect. Thats WORST case.

Best case is obvious.

Holy #### it gets better the more I analyze

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Tanev
Andersson
Weegar
Hanifin
Kylington
Zadorov
Valimaki
Mackey

Not bad.

Even better when you put Weegar in his rightful spot at the very top of that pile.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Oh, haven't you heard or read? Weegar has brain farts.

So did TJ Brodie - I miss him on this team every day.

Kylington’s brain produces flatulence like a lactose-intolerant who drinks nothing but chocolate milk. And he handles the puck like a live grenade. I still want him in the lineup every night because he can Instant Transmission his way out of mistakes.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I am soooo damn curious about what other deals were out there. I imagine there were probably some jaw-dropping deals from some different teams that probably helped to drive up the price to this.


LoL - "Kyrou is off-limits." lol

[Phaneuf_Phan]

Since we have cap space, why not sign UFA Bergeron for 2 years $8M per? I like that better than Kadri.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

How can anyone “not be a fan of this trade” ?

Tkachuk was gone. No matter what he was gone.

So let’s say Huberdeau makes it clear he won’t sign here (just for fun speculation sake). Ok, fine. So we still have the prospect and the first round pick.

Plus we have Weegar. Let’s say Weegar signs. We have a top d-man, a good prospect and a first. Let’s say Weegar doesn’t sign. Then we trade him for at least another first.

Then we trade Huberdeau for at least another 1st.

So worst case is we get three 1st round picks plus a good prospect. Thats WORST case.

Best case is obvious.

Holy #### it gets better the more I analyze

One asset became 4.

They can help you now if you sign them, or help you later if you flip them for futures.

It could become 5 or 6 assets when all is said and done.

That future 1st may come in real handy too. If they do extend their window, that's an easy one to flip for help because you don't lose your first in any upcoming year by doing it.

This was brilliance.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Having Weegar pushes Kylington down to the 3rd pair, which I think will be good for him too. The defence is better than last season after this trade.

[PuckDemon]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Still not a fan of this trade after having a moment to process it, but there’s no doubt there’s a whole host of questions that need to be addressed:

1. So Tre has found his Johnny Gaudreau replacement, where will he find his Matthew Tkachuk or other RW replacement?

2. Have the Flames actually improved from last season’s team?

3. After playing in a no state tax, how will Huberdeau react to $500,000 less take home pay

4. Will both players like snowy winters after living in Florida for so many years?

5. How much time does it take the new guys to gel with their new linemates?

6. How will they react to Darryl Sutter’s abrasive coaching style?

7. After years of CP lamenting about Tkachuk/Gaudreau’s playoff performances, the same applies for Huberdeau, how does he buck the trend?

8. Will Brad Treliving trade both Huberdeau and Weager if they both remain un-signed and we sit comfortably in a playoff position

9. With the Weager addition, what happens to Kylington? Is he traded? does he re-sign long term? short term? Does he still play with Tanev? Does Weager end up on the third pair?

10. How would the fanbase ultimately react if the team ends up suffering a quick playoff exit next season and lose both Weager and Huberdeau for nothing next summer?

11. The sidewalks get icy here in the winter. What if a player slips and injures themselves?

12. Does Huberdeau collapse under the pressure of having to replace Johnny? Having the same last three letters in their names will draw that much more scrutiny on the comparison. Does our new Johnny have the mental fortitude to make it through intact?

13. Is the team literally Colorado now? No, and that worries me. Even if we were Colorado, Kadri might be gone and that keeps me up at night.

14. Has Treliving factored in the eventual heat death of the universe? It will be extremely hard to contend for the cup when the universe is unable to sustain processes that increase entropy. Management really needs to think long term here.

[Heavy Jack]

Walk out of the new Jordan Peele movie, open up CP and see this thread … ‘Nope, there’s no way..!’

Yep! There is!! What a fleece job by Treliving!

[tvp2003]

I wonder if part of the reason Tkachuk was willing to sign in Florida was the chance to play with another elite playmaker in Huberdeau. Yes they have other good forwards there, but I’m sure the thought crossed his mind at least once.

Might have been fun to see Tkachuk’s reaction when he learned who was going to Calgary from Florida.

[Circa89]

Thanks again Mr. Tkachuk. This is how you leave a franchise still very much respective John. Just saying

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Remember last season when everyone was screaming to trade Gaudreau and Tkachuk and get what they could for them to change the face of the team.

Gaudreau had 49 points in 56 games.
Tkachuk had 43 points in 56 games.

I don't believe the Flames get the return from these two a year ago that they got tonight for Tkachuk.

100% they don't