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Old 02-15-2022, 07:55 PM   #961
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So you won't be impressing anyone when you pat yourself on the back for being "right".

He can certainly do this:
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:02 PM   #962
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If the Flames win the cup or even make it to the finals with Toffoli (they won't) I will happily take my lumps
Wow, so brave.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:20 PM   #963
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Was Tarasenko according to every major scout out there including Button and locals.

They also traded away their 2nd round pick that year, and the highest rated for that was in fact, Tyler Tofoli.

But I'm sure this will go much better (seeing as it's a "different regime", without any Sutter influence unlike back then...).
Never heard the Flames were on Tarasenko. Not saying it isn’t true but would love to see the links or source
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:26 PM   #964
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Was Tarasenko according to every major scout out there including Button and locals.

They also traded away their 2nd round pick that year, and the highest rated for that was in fact, Tyler Tofoli.

But I'm sure this will go much better (seeing as it's a "different regime", without any Sutter influence unlike back then...).
They traded that second for Rene Bourque who went on to be a productive player for many seasons
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:45 PM   #965
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If the Flames win the cup or even make it to the finals with Toffoli (they won't) I will happily take my lumps

And.....go right back to hibernation.
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https://twitter.com/MAGodin/status/1493649821617606660

Martin St-Louis says that, from what he's seen, Tyler Toffoli was the captain without wearing the C.
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If the Flames win the cup or even make it to the finals with Toffoli (they won't) I will happily take my lumps
Really going out on a limb there. Mighty brave of you.
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This trade is a small price to pay for a Stanley Cup
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Old 02-15-2022, 10:35 PM   #969
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on pace for 82 goals as a flame, franchise record
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Early returns, but that line looked great. Created a lot of opportunities.
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Old 02-15-2022, 10:42 PM   #971
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Early returns, but that line looked great. Created a lot of opportunities.
Kind of a shame they didn’t score as a line, though the members got 2 goals. They had lots of chances. Nice feed from Toffoli to Dube, nice pass from Monahan to Toffoli. Monahan to Zadorov as well when that line was on.
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Old 02-16-2022, 04:25 AM   #972
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This trade is a small price to pay for a Stanley Cup
Cup or not it's a nice player and a decent contract, good add at the most needed position.
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Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how a year ago, we would've been desperate for a right winger and thrown him onto the top line? Today, we have two of the best lines in hockey that we don't want to disturb (thanks to Coleman/Mangiapane freeing up Tkachuk from driving the second line), and Ruzicka's somehow got a line with Trevor Lewis to not be the fourth line, so onto the fourth line he goes with a guy who is clearly not the same player today, but was still the #1C on the best team in the West three years ago.

We just got the top scorer from a team that went to the Stanley Cup finals and we're playing him on our fourth line. What an embarrassment of riches!

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Old 02-16-2022, 09:12 AM   #974
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Sure, most trades don't result on a Stanley Cup. That doesn't mean they were bad. We're dealing with probabilities here. Does Toffoli increase the expected value of Stanley Cups won more than the assets given up?
ooo, I know this one, it is Purple Dinosaur.
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Old 02-16-2022, 09:57 AM   #975
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I think the Flames vastly overpaid for toffoli
But that's really good for us

Toffoli back in our division...that's definitely not good for us
Also I don't really see it as an overpaid. A late first, a B level prospect, a late pick and a cap dump really doesn't seem that expensive for a non-rental player to me.

Seemed like a pretty good deal for the Flames to me?

Toffoli is no rental. Still has two seasons after this one at a very good price. For a team like Calgary I think he's worth a good prospect and a mid-late first.
The value he provides for 4.25M makes him so valuable.

The Canucks traded a good prospect in his D+2 and 51st overall for 20 games of Toffoli
The Flames traded a good prospect in his D+2 and ~20th overall for 2.5 seasons of Toffoli.

Toffoli is going to absolutely thrive in Calgary and gets to play us more now.
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Only fitting for them to #### on our team for the next few years.
JEB, you're the best GM the Calgary Flames could ask for. No man is more deserving of the GM of the year award than thou.

It’s like Calgary just looked at Benning and went “see what he’s doing? Let’s do the opposite”.

lmao we're officially Calgary's farm team.

if Calgary makes a big playoff push I'll be cheering for them to win it all with so many ex Canucks.
All those guys deserve a cup so bad.

Does Jimbo get a ring if the Flames win the cup? He sure deserves one if it happens.
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He looks good in that red jersey.

Because of COURSE Toffoli scored lol
I'll miss him for sure

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Old 02-16-2022, 09:59 AM   #976
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lmao we're officially Calgary's farm team.
Haha this is good.
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Couldn't resist.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493995351820279808

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The Flames’ plus-48 goal differential now ranks as the league’s fourth-best, behind only Colorado, Florida, and Carolina. All three of those teams are contenders with a capital “C.”

After acquiring Toffoli, the Flames are contenders with a flaming “C.”
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Right, we can bump this on draft day then lol.

The true impact may never be known but let's just say the Jokinen trade is a lot less popular now than it was then, and he was younger.

If the Flames win the cup or even make it to the finals with Toffoli (they won't) I will happily take my lumps
Lol you seem miserable.
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I saw a lot to like in Dube-Monahan-Toffoli.

Monahan in particular played with more jump than I’ve seen from him in a while - if he’s able to find his game again, they’re three lines deep and a legitimate threat to win it all.
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Lol you seem miserable.
Writing something off the second it happens is something extra. At least the Flames are trying. Isn't that better than standing pat and having a smaller chance of making a run?

I wouldn't spend more than 5 minutes of my time with someone that negative/cynical.

Obviously only 1 of 32 teams succeeds each year, but the fun is in the gambles like this and the ride there, and that slim chance of it paying off.

Negative historians just rob themselves and others of that fun for no good reason.
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