Let's Talk about the Calgary Police Service

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

But didn't the article say he wasn't wearing a seatbelt? Again, are we talking about this incident or something else?

I reread the article, it seems to me the comment was made after the situation was "deescalated". It was a poorly worded teaching moment that way I read it.

Either way, we can all agree, the journalist that wrote the article likely should have been clearer. But I won't judge an entire profession over a few poorly written articles. But that's just how I roll.

The kid denied that he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I guess I'm taking his word for it.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

The kid denied that he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I guess I'm taking his word for it.

I've learned the hard way to not trust 18 year old kids at their word when it comes to getting out of punishment

All in all it's a pretty nothing story to me. Kid did a dumb thing, cop said a dumb thing, journalist writes it in a way to create controversy given the climate surrounding the police at the moment

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

The kid denied that he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I guess I'm taking his word for it.

All good. I guess that's what I mean. If you take the view of Tradional Ale for example (post 939), there is no room for rational discussion and we could argue for hours not about what happened, but what we think happened based on that view.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

Seriously man, why do you always go there?

While at times, I think you have good things to say, why must you always try and get your point across by using hyperbole and calling people stupid or otherwise tossing out insults at things or people you disagree with.

I am not even sure you're aware you do it. As I said, I think you have some good things to contribute, but lately, you have really gone off the rails. Can I buzz buddy you a beer or something?

Threatening to shoot someone for no reason is actually very stupid. It's stupid because the cop doesn't even understand that if he had shot that guy for no reason he'd be going to jail for a very long time. It's stupid because it shows not only a misunderstanding of law, but a total disregard for every single problem currently going on in the states. It's bad training, but also a bad interpretation of training. Pepsi's post is exactly right.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Threatening to shoot someone for no reason is actually very stupid. It's stupid because the cop doesn't even understand that if he had shot that guy for no reason he'd be going to jail for a very long time. It's stupid because it shows not only a misunderstanding of law, but a total disregard for every single problem currently going on in the states. It's bad training, but also a bad interpretation of training. Pepsi's post is exactly right.

All good man. You don't need to defend him. There's some clear interpretation issues of the article based on what side of the fence you sit on. My only point was that sometimes his points get lost because of the style in which he writes them. That's all.

I get you agree with him. That's ok. As I said, these threads are an echo chamber of like minded individuals.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

All good man. You don't need to defend him. There's some clear interpretation issues of the article based on what side of the fence you sit on. My only point was that sometimes his points get lost because of the style in which he writes them. That's all.

I get you agree with him. That's ok. As I said, these threads are an echo chamber of like minded individuals.

Well he's not calling you or anyone posting here stupid. So you didn't need to be defensive. The echo chamber you're referring to is typical of a thread where you'd likely post issues with CPS that tend to make the news. You don't hear about the good stuff cops do every day because it's not really abnormal, or exceptional. We expect cops to be normal, decent people. When they're not, it winds up here. Hence the echo.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I've learned the hard way to not trust 18 year old kids at their word when it comes to getting out of punishment

All in all it's a pretty nothing story to me. Kid did a dumb thing, cop said a dumb thing, journalist writes it in a way to create controversy given the climate surrounding the police at the moment

I usually would not trust a teen, but when a human that is supposed to protect people says what he/she said, I'll take the teen's word.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

All good man. You don't need to defend him. There's some clear interpretation issues of the article based on what side of the fence you sit on. My only point was that sometimes his points get lost because of the style in which he writes them. That's all.

I get you agree with him. That's ok. As I said, these threads are an echo chamber of like minded individuals.

It's best practice to stay out of any politically charged threads on CP (Or the internet in general, really)

I pop in every once in a while, ocassionally say my piece, then see the way the rest of the discussion is going, then it's back to the gear grinder and video game threads for me while I wonder how we even function as a society if a lot of these opinions are how the majority acts and thinks. Some people just enjoy arguements, while a lot of the rational posts don't even get replied too

[zamler]

Release the video FFS.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by zamler

Release the video FFS.

Would it even change anything? People will see what they want

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Well he's not calling you or anyone posting here stupid. So you didn't need to be defensive. The echo chamber you're referring to is typical of a thread where you'd likely post issues with CPS that tend to make the news. You don't hear about the good stuff cops do every day because it's not really abnormal, or exceptional. We expect cops to be normal, decent people. When they're not, it winds up here. Hence the echo.

Think we aren't connecting here. It's the general style I was referring to and used the "stupid" comment as an example. Nothing to do with me personally.

The echo chamber comment comes about when someone has a different view, then the writing style comes to the forefront.

When someone posts a link or experience in this thread or any other, the nature of the message board is to generate discussion. That may mean you agree or disagree, have a different experience or possibly some expertise on the subject. But if the prevailing attitude is that no, we are only suppose to echo the sentiments of the op we are quoting, I question the the purpose of the thread. If that's what we want, I'm good with that and will go back into simply being a long time listener.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

All good man. You don't need to defend him. There's some clear interpretation issues of the article based on what side of the fence you sit on. My only point was that sometimes his points get lost because of the style in which he writes them. That's all.

I get you agree with him. That's ok. As I said, these threads are an echo chamber of like minded individuals.

As someone who has been posting for all of two weeks, you seem to have some strong opinions on what certain posters and certain threads are always like. You’re welcome to them, but I’m not too worried about it.

To me, pretty simple, a police officer telling someone not listening and fooling around with bottles “that’s a good way to get shot” is stupid. If the point is lost on you because you don’t like the word choice, that’s all good by me. Seems others picked up the point just fine.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by btimbit

It's best practice to stay out of any politically charged threads on CP (Or the internet in general, really)

I pop in every once in a while, ocassionally say my piece, then see the way the rest of the discussion is going, then it's back to the gear grinder and video game threads for me while I wonder how we even function as a society if a lot of these opinions are how the majority acts and thinks. Some people just enjoy arguements, while a lot of the rational posts don't even get replied too

Thanks man. You are totally right!!!

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

As someone who has been posting for all of two weeks, you seem to have some strong opinions on what certain posters and certain threads are always like. You’re welcome to them, but I’m not too worried about it.

To me, pretty simple, a police officer telling someone not listening and fooling around with bottles “that’s a good way to get shot” is stupid. If the point is lost on you because you don’t like the word choice, that’s all good by me. Seems others picked up the point just fine.

LOL. This entire post is exactly what I am talking about. Subtle personal jabs.

It's all good man. Not a reflection on me. No hard feelings. The beer offer still stands.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Would it even change anything? People will see what they want

Maybe it won't, but at least there is a chance most people will see it with a an open mind.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

LOL. This entire post is exactly what I am talking about. Subtle personal jabs.

It's all good man. Not a reflection on me.

No personal jabs at all, we’re good. I just don’t know you, so it’s a little like a stranger poking his head in the room and saying “hey bro I don’t know if I agree with your style.” Great, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your contributions in the future and getting some insight into you and where we agree/disagree in the future, and maybe you’ll do the same.

For now, I would suggest taking things a lot less personally, it’s probably help going forward, cause that’s certainly not how I meant it.

[Fuzz]

The lesson here is that you rinse you milk bottles out before recycling so they don't become nasty stink bombs. Bad form on his part. Torture for the depot workers. I hope he learned his lesson.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The lesson here is that you rinse you milk bottles out before recycling so they don't become nasty stink bombs.

Indeed. Should really be the sort of thing that gets you shot.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Indeed. Should really be the sort of thing that gets you shot.

Uh oh....is 'The Bottle Workers Union Local 666' lobbying for their employees to be armed?

"This Milk Jug better be rinsed...I've got a license to kill and I'm packing..."

[SebC]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

How is police brutality a left-right issue?

Because for many, their right-wing worldview is fundamentally tied to a belief that people get what they deserve. Because they believe in God, and God is just, so the world cannot be unfair. Because if rich people didn't earn their wealth, and poor people didn't earn their poverty, then wealth should be redistributed. And if people get what they deserve, then the victims of police brutality must have caused it or deserve it. That's why you see right wingers jumping through hoops to defend police and blame victims.