Flames stars Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau stick together

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

These two guys have had vastly different development curve profiles, and as others have noted, career PPG is not necessarily the most reasonable metric.

But it's fine when you repeatedly use it to showcase the difference between Tarasenko and Gaudreau.

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Over the past two seasons it hasn't been all that close. Hall to Johansen is not at all the same thing as Gaudreau to Monahan.

Why not? Because you're obsessed over cheery picking 1-2 year spots with which to prove your points. It's absolutely comparable.

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

I wouldn't be at all shocked if Larsson ends up the better dman between the two.

That's nice that you have that opinion but the actual evidence doesn't support that.

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Elite is a guy who could reasonably challenge for a scoring title. Top 3-5 player in his position, perennial all star, shows up in big moments.

I'd consider good in a broader range of players who are pretty definitively inside the top 15-50 in their position, could be an all star in a given year, but don't have a realistic shot at winning any major individual trophies.

Problem is, Gaudreau hasn't proven he fits the definition of elite you described.

Monahan hasn't proven he's limited to the definition of good you described.

What about your definition? Scoring title huh? Toews and Bergeron aren't elite? Just "good"?

You're using unfounded and inconsistent opinions to support your argument as though they're facts. They aren't.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Leon Draisaitl, career high 19 goals/51 points, 'assuredly' replaces what Monahan brings? Monahan had more goals with games missed to injury as a 19 year old rookie than Draisaitl has in his 109 game career as a 19 and 20 year old.

Not to stick up for the oilers, but johnny and mony get top pp minutes on the team as well as our defencemen are light years better than the oilers. I believe with top pp minutes and better defencemen draisaitl replicates monys numbers.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Actually you seem like a troll because your logic is completely inconsistent and you''ve been caught changing your argument and lying about it already. Plus, you then constantly add garbage like this:




Were you responding in kind? Maybe. But you've also made a fair number of posts where you basically call this whole community hyperbolic idiots who don't know how to have a logically valid conversation.

Ask 1CupChuck how repeatedly talking about the community like that worked out.

Where am I lying or changing my argument?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Where am I lying or changing my argument?

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=155741

[jemjey]

This guy has taken over every Gaudreau thread... And it's still the same things being discussed...

No point in arguing with this guy he's clearly learned from the Adam Savage school of debate: