02-23-2016, 02:05 PM
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#961
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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From the stars prospect report they released yesterday:
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RW Denis Gurianov (first round/2015) wrapped up his season with Lada Togliatti of the KHL last week, playing two games and registering no points. Gurianov finished the season with 5 points (4 goals, 1 assist) in 47 games while averaging 10:06 of ice time per game. Gurianov has now gone back to Russian juniors, where he played one game last week and registered one assist and six shots on goal. He has 3 points (2 goals, 1 assist) in 4 games in juniors this season.
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KHL: 47 gp, 4g, 1a, 5 pts, -11.
MHL: 4gp, 2g, 1a, 3 pts, -1
Not a great year for Guryanov either, add in the fact he got cut from Russias WJC team just makes it worse for the guy. I'd buy low on him for sure. But I'd take Nichushkin all day long over Guryanov.
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02-23-2016, 02:06 PM
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#962
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Disagree. He's a great #5 guy and he'll fit great there long term if we can add another top 4 d-man. Hartley overplays him because we don't have better options at the moment.
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He's too similar to the rest of the team's blueline. A soft puck moving defenceman. I don't want him back at any price, honestly.
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02-23-2016, 02:07 PM
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#963
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Andy Strickland @andystrickland
#Flames and Kris Russell continue to talk...if traded chances are he goes to a team that doesn't have the cap space to re-sign him
Which hints that the Flames might trade him and then try to sign him back as UFA
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Hopefully, in September for $2m...
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02-23-2016, 02:10 PM
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#964
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Not a great year for Guryanov either
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He played 4th line in the KHL due to being an 18 year old. Was 2nd last on his team's roster in ice time. Still a massive ceiling there to become a Kovalchuk-lite.
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02-23-2016, 02:13 PM
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#965
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He played 4th line in the KHL due to being an 18 year old. Was 2nd last on his team's roster in ice time. Still a massive ceiling there to become a Kovalchuk-lite.
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Oh no doubt, I like Guryanov a bunch, but just putting the seasons numbers out there. Not a great season any which way you want to cut it.
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02-23-2016, 02:19 PM
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#966
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Disagree. He's a great #5 guy
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... who wants #2 sized dollars (and Term). If he's willing to be paid like a #5 guy then by all means bring him back but any more and I'd take a big pass.
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02-23-2016, 02:22 PM
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#967
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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I think Hudler + Russell is fair for Nichushkin, assuming they are trading him. That's 2 low 1st rounders or maybe a low 1st + 2 x 2nd in terms of value.
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02-23-2016, 02:46 PM
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#968
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Winchestertonfieldville Jail
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^ still to much
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02-23-2016, 02:58 PM
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#969
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Montreal
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
I think Hudler + Russell is fair for Nichushkin, assuming they are trading him. That's 2 low 1st rounders or maybe a low 1st + 2 x 2nd in terms of value.
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That would be good day.
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02-23-2016, 03:18 PM
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#970
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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It would be insane if the Flames somehow got Nikushkin and Drouin and they had 6 1st rounders from the 2013 draft
Drouin(3)
Monahan(6)
Nikushkin(10)
Porier(22)
Shinkaruk(24)
Klimchuck(28)
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02-23-2016, 03:23 PM
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#971
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
It would be insane if the Flames somehow got Nikushkin and Drouin and they had 6 1st rounders from the 2013 draft
Drouin(3)
Monahan(6)
Nikushkin(10)
Porier(22)
Shinkaruk(24)
Klimchuck(28)
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Nichushkin
Drouin - Bennett - Poirer
Shinkaruk - Jankowski - Laine/Puljujarvi
Anyone - Anyone - Anyone
Make something happen Treliving!
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02-23-2016, 03:31 PM
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#972
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
It would be insane if the Flames somehow got Nikushkin and Drouin and they had 6 1st rounders from the 2013 draft
Drouin(3)
Monahan(6)
Nikushkin(10)
Porier(22)
Shinkaruk(24)
Klimchuck(28)
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Agreed that would be cool.
But I don't see how we have the pieces to get both, maybe one or the other. And on top of that I don't see this team making a move for Douin at all. I'm positive I heard Treliving or Burke comment on the fact that they strongly did NOT like a young player like that sitting out and demanding a trade. Although I could have imagined that last part lol.
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02-23-2016, 03:57 PM
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#973
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I agree Drouin is unlikely for the Flames unless the asking price is so dirt cheap. Nikushkin fits a much bigger need anyway.
I would be shocked if they moved him for 2 rentals but would rather do that then move those guys for a couple 2nd and 3rd round picks.
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02-23-2016, 04:04 PM
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#975
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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No good, just like the Oilers and Yakupov.
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02-23-2016, 04:06 PM
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#976
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I like the idea of Nichushkin... but his actual performance since being drafted (and even before) still makes me wonder why his pedigree is so high.
I'm not sure the actual player makes me all that excited.
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He put up 34 points in his first year in the NHL, that same season the older Monahan put up 34 points.
He missed almost the entire last season.
This season, the Stars have brought in players like Sharp. Nichushkin has had some very favourable opportunities with players like Benn and Seguin, but it's not exactly surprising that Sharp has gotten most of the time on the right wing for them. Instead Nichushkin has played a relatively high amount of time with Roussell and Fiddler and Hemsky, often times on his off-wing. He sees relatively low amount of PP time because they do have these vets who are getting it done. Competing for a playoff spot, they didn't have time to cuddle back the 20 year old coming off major surgery by giving him a large amount of unwarranted ice time.
This is a player with size, speed, skill and hands. It's hard not to be excited for him as a player. If it wasn't for the "Russian Factor" he very possibly goes in the top 5 of the 2013 draft.
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02-23-2016, 04:08 PM
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#977
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
He put up 34 points in his first year in the NHL, that same season the older Monahan put up 34 points.
He missed almost the entire last season.
This season, the Stars have brought in players like Sharp. Nichushkin has had some very favourable opportunities with players like Benn and Seguin, but it's not exactly surprising that Sharp has gotten most of the time on the right wing for them. Instead Nichushkin has played a relatively high amount of time with Roussell and Fiddler and Hemsky, often times on his off-wing. He sees relatively low amount of PP time because they do have these vets who are getting it done. Competing for a playoff spot, they didn't have time to cuddle back the 20 year old coming off major surgery by giving him a large amount of unwarranted ice time.
This is a player with size, speed, skill and hands. It's hard not to be excited for him as a player. If it wasn't for the "Russian Factor" he very possibly goes in the top 5 of the 2013 draft.
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I'd like a guy like Chush on the Flames, but not sure if Chush is THAT guy. You feel me?
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02-23-2016, 04:10 PM
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#978
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Pros: Younger, Cheaper, longer rights control
Cons: Sucks
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02-23-2016, 04:12 PM
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#979
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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TSN values the Oilers very high. Remember they've been believing the Oilers are building something special there since 2008 or so.
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02-23-2016, 04:13 PM
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#980
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Franchise Player
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that list isn't a ranking of players skills fyi
Yak is a young player with a year left on his deal vs. UFA
I mean I would trade Russell for Yak
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