2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by TOfan

They touched on both Edmonton and Toronto as suitors for Flames D.

There's got to be a way to get Edmonton to take Kadri and we somehow get Hyman

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Edmonton? Or Toronto?

Mentioned both but Friedman specifically said if the Leafs could get both Zadorov and Tanev they would do that. When it came to Edmonton it would basically have to be a clear fleecing for Conroy to consider helping Edmonton. So 1st+2 2nds each for Zardorov, Tanev, or Markstrom for Edmonton (not eating the Campbell contract either)

Lost in how brutal our season has been the Leafs are off to a bad start and a lot of the talk on how all of their new additions have fit in poorly. With how the Flames look now and early returns on his free agent signings I am not seeing a lot of Leaf Nation exuding confidence in Treliving.

[Shazam]

McDavid for Z and Tanev.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think its pretty clear we can thank Mr. Edwards for the mess we are in right now.

I think it makes a lot of sense now why Treliving never pulled the Sutter trigger and brought in different guys. It was never going to work with two guys like him and Tkachuk and Treliving likely knew that you build around star players not coaches.

Treliving had 2 Jack Adam’s winners and 2 coaches that won a round for this team in his 9 years. The guy he inherited in Hartley and the guy who allegedly was forced on him in Darryl. Tree went and hired 3 guys who will never be a head coach in the league again.

Pretty sure we can thank the GM who was put in place to execute a plan and fumbled this teams 2 franchise players. Edwards wasn’t negotiating a 6 year deal with a 2nd/3rd line player in Coleman or gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for a third pairing D who dragged down all of his partners and bounced on the team when given a free pass.

I think it is crystal clear Treliving is who we can thank for this mess.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's also hilarious to read the double standard with Johnny and. Huberdeau.

All his struggles are because his team sucks and they can't defend. Isn't he supposed to be a star to stir the drink?

The Flames suck and can't defend and it's all Huberdeaus fault. People saying they flat out hate him.

One guy actually cares a lot and got himself involved in the community bought a house in the city.

The other guy rented a place every year had poor off ice habits and his father was more involved in the community than him.

Heck he said one day he will bring his daughter to the city to show her Banff.

But yes let's let's dump a struggling star for a guy who screwed us over and doesn't even care.

The team doesn't miss Gaudreau they miss Tkachuk.

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Please type in paragraphs!!!!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Treliving had 2 Jack Adam’s winners and 2 coaches that won a round for this team in his 9 years. The guy he inherited in Hartley and the guy who allegedly was forced on him in Darryl. Tree went and hired 3 guys who will never be a head coach in the league again.

Pretty sure we can thank the GM who was put in place to execute a plan and fumbled this teams 2 franchise players. Edwards wasn’t negotiating a 6 year deal with a 2nd/3rd line player in Coleman or gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for a third pairing D who dragged down all of his partners and bounced on the team when given a free pass.

I think it is crystal clear Treliving is who we can thank for this mess.

Regardless of this conduct Peters got the team to play a modern style that suits the current NHL and got career years out of the exact same group Sutter did.

The Hartley and Gulutzan mess are his to own.

Coleman was a good signing and probably provided a lot more to the team in the room. The Flames teetered a bit vs Dallas in that first roung and it sounds like it was something he said in the room during game 5 that got them back to their game for the remainder of that series.

But yes its starting to look like Treliving was a overrated gm, but the Tkachuk thing is not as easy as give him a 6 year deal because we don't know that. He could have still asked for a trade once Sutter arrived.

[dissentowner]

MOD EDIT: Removed over the top rumors. Do not want here.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Agreed it would make for a good long form podcast. But the drama was wider than just Gaudreau. I’d like to hear the full story - Gaudreau’s negotiations and breakdown, Tkachuk’s decision to leave, the trade with Florida, signing Huberdeau and Kadri - in a long doc style. And all through the lens of the difficulty of operating small-market Canadian NHL teams and the desperate efforts they make to try to compete in the league. Because all of the above is shaping up to be a major pivot-point in the history of the franchise.

Podcast? I’m hoping for one of those hbo sport series on that summer. Maybe through in a little of “what was Sutter thinking” during the phanuef and kotalik trades

[FlamesAddiction]

The Canes just signed Halak to a PTO.

Depending on how that goes, they may be in the market for a goalie.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1721538645708923298

Hopefully the medical issue with Andersen isn't too serious.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The Canes just signed Halak to a PTO.

Depending on how that goes, they may be in the market for a goalie.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1721538645708923298

Hopefully the medical issue with Andersen isn't too serious.

5th worst in goals against this year, seems like they are having some issues themselves this year. Normally a team that is in the top 5 in goals against.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

There's got to be a way to get Edmonton to take Kadri and we somehow get Hyman

Its not like Hyman is good without McDavid

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This is what I strongly believe played out over those final days of Johnny's time with the Flames...

Probably 100% accurate of what happened in those final days. Unfortunately the Gaudreau story was written the previous summer when Gaudreau was willing to sign more than a fair deal but Treliving slow played it because he didn't think Gaudreau would bounce back to be a dominant scorer. If he really felt that way he should have made a deal and moved the player then instead of giving the player all the control and in the end allowing the team to get screwed. But that is water under the bridge and we are left to cheer for the crap team Treliving left behind. Now it is up to Conroy to see if he can somehow find improvement with what he has to work with.

[dino7c]

The way that Gaudreau is mailing it in now its tough to say what would have happened if they signed him early

he busted his balls in a contract year...pretty hard to argue otherwise based on statistical data. He also doesn't seem like someone that will age well based on his lack of dedication to the off ice stuff. Training, diet, ect.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Shazam

McDavid for Z and Tanev.

Too much diving coming this way, need some going out. Send them Kadri too.

[Hack&Lube]

Leafs fans don't sound happy with Tre this season.
https://editorinleaf.com/2023/11/06/...s-clean-house/

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Mentioned both but Friedman specifically said if the Leafs could get both Zadorov and Tanev they would do that. When it came to Edmonton it would basically have to be a clear fleecing for Conroy to consider helping Edmonton. So 1st+2 2nds each for Zardorov, Tanev, or Markstrom for Edmonton (not eating the Campbell contract either)

Lost in how brutal our season has been the Leafs are off to a bad start and a lot of the talk on how all of their new additions have fit in poorly. With how the Flames look now and early returns on his free agent signings I am not seeing a lot of Leaf Nation exuding confidence in Treliving.

Give Brad time to see how Reaves helps out the offence and how Klingberg helps solidify the backend.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The way that Gaudreau is mailing it in now its tough to say what would have happened if they signed him early

he busted his balls in a contract year...pretty hard to argue otherwise based on statistical data. He also doesn't seem like someone that will age well based on his lack of dedication to the off ice stuff. Training, diet, ect.

If Gaudreau had stayed, we would have kept Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk intact for one more season and their previous success would have likely continued or even improved. His departure is what Tre thought forced his hand into dealing Tkachuk early to force a complete retool with what has turned out to be our current two tools.

[dino7c]

Everything the Leafs have going for them are guys they drafted years ago, like really I might as well be the GM...they would have more cap space and similar results.

Reeves contract was ridiculous

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The Canes just signed Halak to a PTO.

Depending on how that goes, they may be in the market for a goalie.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1721538645708923298

Hopefully the medical issue with Andersen isn't too serious.

Blood clotting issue. Wishing him a good recovery:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1721604802541453817

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

If Gaudreau had stayed, we would have kept Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk intact for one more season and their previous success would have likely continued or even improved. His departure is what Tre thought forced his hand into dealing Tkachuk early to force a complete retool with what has turned out to be our current two tools.

I think Tkachuk would have wanted out as well.

He also didn't trade him early, he extended a arbitration deadline to give them team an extra week of getting a deal done. We would have been screwed if he let is pass as I believe we would have been locked into the 1 year deal.