2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Ped

IIRC Kane shot up the rankings over the year. I think before the season started, it was supposed to be Voracek or Angelo Exposito.

If so, we have to go back to Ovechkin to maybe find a winger prospect as hyped as McKenna? I saw the mention of Lafreniere as well… but his hype seemed to diminish in his draft year. We’ll see if that happens with McKenna but I doubt it.

[Vinny01]

Taylor Hall is the last winger I remember being close to a consensus number 1 pick. That year was the “fall for Hall” but it was also Taylor or Tyler so some thought Seguin should be in the mix for the pick.

I don’t think McKenna will be a center in the NHL but I could easily be wrong

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Taylor Hall is the last winger I remember being close to a consensus number 1 pick. That year was the “fall for Hall” but it was also Taylor or Tyler so some thought Seguin should be in the mix for the pick.

I don’t think McKenna will be a center in the NHL but I could easily be wrong

Difference there was that his hype started around the year before he was drafted. McKenna has been hyped since Bedard’s draft year. McKenna was 15 at that point… don’t think Lafreniere, Hall or even Kane were ever being talked about that early in their hockey careers.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Difference there was that his hype started around the year before he was drafted. McKenna has been hyped since Bedard’s draft year. McKenna was 15 at that point… don’t think Lafreniere, Hall or even Kane were ever being talked about that early in their hockey careers.

Lafreniere definitely was. There was huge hype around him prior to the QMJHL entry draft and he would have been 15.

[sureLoss]

Insider trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-tra...-leafs~3087092

Schenn and Laughton remain best fit for the Leafs
Dreger says prospects like Mitten, Cowen, or Danford might be in play for Schenn
Asking price for Laughton is 1st round draft pick or equivalent prospect unless Philly needs to take a contract back then it is a 1st +

Tavares extension with Leafs before deadline is doubtful

Teams are keeping an eye on Gourde.
Objective is to play before deadline.
Would like to join a contender

Goalie upgrade is not priority for the Oilers.
Oilers don't see any of the available goalies (e.g. Gibson) as an upgrade over Skinner.

Seth Jones and Dallas might be a match.
Depends on how much salary Chicago is willing to eat.
Doesn't sound like this will be a futures deal, Chicago wants players back

[Tkachukwagon]

Thanks Sureloss, always great to see some trade rumours and speculation in this thread.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Insider trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-tra...-leafs~3087092

Schenn and Laughton remain best fit for the Leafs
Dreger says prospects like Mitten, Cowen, or Danford might be in play for Schenn
Asking price for Laughton is 1st round draft pick or equivalent prospect unless Philly needs to take a contract back then it is a 1st +

Tavares extension with Leafs before deadline is doubtful

Teams are keeping an eye on Gourde.
Objective is to play before deadline.
Would like to join a contender

Goalie upgrade is not priority for the Oilers.
Oilers don't see any of the available goalies (e.g. Gibson) as an upgrade over Skinner.

Seth Jones and Dallas might be a match.
Depends on how much salary Chicago is willing to eat.
Doesn't sound like this will be a futures deal, Chicago wants players back

Never change oilers.

[dammage79]

Feels like a foregone conclusion now Seth Jones is going to Dallas. And obviously Chicago needs players, once Jones is gone , it's Bedard and an AHL team.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Feels like a foregone conclusion now Seth Jones is going to Dallas. And obviously Chicago needs players, once Jones is gone , it's Bedard and an AHL team.

Would think Dallas would have to send Seguin back to make the cap work. Not sure if Seguin has a NTC - I assume he does. Would he waive to go to Chicago? Bad team and higher taxes.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Difference there was that his hype started around the year before he was drafted. McKenna has been hyped since Bedard’s draft year. McKenna was 15 at that point… don’t think Lafreniere, Hall or even Kane were ever being talked about that early in their hockey careers.

I agree McKenna is getting the Bedard, Matthews, McDavid, MacKinnon, Crosby level of hype that he could be generational which likely has not been that level for a winger since Ovie

[traptor]

Just a crazy hypothetically, but if the flames are trying to be aggressive in acquiring a young center and considering the success the Blues had with it, are there any worth offer sheet targets?

Johnston: would be ideal but it would be expensive. Would probably have to be 8.25+ to entice him and cost us x2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd

Rossi: probably cost 7-8. There have been rumors about the Wild moving him. Would be a 1st + 2nd + 3rd

Bourque: would be a risky one as he hasn't proven anything at the NHL level yet. But he's a young RS center that has put up some gawdy numbers at other levels. Maybe in the 5-6 range? 1st + 3rd

McTavish: probably same as Rossi? I think 5-6 the ducks match. 7+ I'm not so sure.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by traptor

Just a crazy hypothetically, but if the flames are trying to be aggressive in acquiring a young center and considering the success the Blues had with it, are there any worth offer sheet targets?

Johnston: would be ideal but it would be expensive. Would probably have to be 8.25+ to entice him and cost us x2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd

Rossi: probably cost 7-8. There have been rumors about the Wild moving him. Would be a 1st + 2nd + 3rd

Bourque: would be a risky one as he hasn't proven anything at the NHL level yet. But he's a young RS center that has put up some gawdy numbers at other levels. Maybe in the 5-6 range? 1st + 3rd

McTavish: probably same as Rossi? I think 5-6 the ducks match. 7+ I'm not so sure.

don't be giving up 2026 draft picks; offer sheets last summer made sense if they had fore knowledge that the 2025 draft was weak

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by traptor

Just a crazy hypothetically, but if the flames are trying to be aggressive in acquiring a young center and considering the success the Blues had with it, are there any worth offer sheet targets?

Johnston: would be ideal but it would be expensive. Would probably have to be 8.25+ to entice him and cost us x2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd

Rossi: probably cost 7-8. There have been rumors about the Wild moving him. Would be a 1st + 2nd + 3rd

Bourque: would be a risky one as he hasn't proven anything at the NHL level yet. But he's a young RS center that has put up some gawdy numbers at other levels. Maybe in the 5-6 range? 1st + 3rd

McTavish: probably same as Rossi? I think 5-6 the ducks match. 7+ I'm not so sure.

I wouldn’t want to risk giving up unprotected firsts in the 2026 draft. If Wolf has a softmore slump, the flames could very easily be giving up a top 5 pick next year. I’d be fine with an offersheet similar to the Holloway one that only gave up 2nd/3rd round picks. But not ones that give up unprotected firsts. I like all those centers but it’s too risky.

[sureLoss]

I think it will be harder to successfully offer sheet this summer.

With the cap going up and the knowledge that the cap is estimated to go to $113.5 million by 27/28, teams are probably in a good position to match most offer sheets.

[Jay Random]

Since the summer of 2021, only two offer sheets have been signed by players. Those players were the only good young talent on last year's Edmonton Oilers, and they took advantage of the Oilers' weapons-grade stupidity to get out of Dodge.

Now that the Oilers have nobody worth signing to an offer sheet, I'm thinking it doesn't much matter what the cap does. The league will go back to silence as usual.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think it will be harder to successfully offer sheet this summer.

With the cap going up and the knowledge that the cap is estimated to go to $113.5 million by 27/28, teams are probably in a good position to match most offer sheets.

Are offer sheets indexed to the salary cap at all? I could see the PA wanting to change that in the next CBA.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Are offer sheets indexed to the salary cap at all? I could see the PA wanting to change that in the next CBA.

The compensation brackets are tied to the salary cap.

For example in 2023, the threshold for 4 1st round picks was an AAV of over $10,725,314.

In 2024, the threshold for 4 1st round picks was an AAV of over $11,452,294.

[Sec214]

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I don't get it but keep the gifs coming, next 10 days are gonna be fun!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Ped

Sportsnet adding their thoughts that Rantanen's struggles are more luck than anything else, which others have posited:








https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...th-hurricanes/

To play devil's advocate, hockey coaching consultant and former AHL assistant coach, Jack Han has a different thought on Rantanen in CAR vs COL. Interesting to read through his analysis.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1894250055520977229