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Old 10-04-2025, 07:02 PM   #9681
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If any of our pro scouts at the time of the Tkachuk trade told GMBT that Huby was 'the guy' and worthy of such a contract, then I hope that scout is no longer employed here.

Was the bad idea just GMBT's?

I hope someone spills the beans some day. Any insiders have a line on this? It's water under the bridge so maybe lips will be looser.
He had 115 points tied for second in league scoring above Drai, Kaprisov, Mathews, Marner ect. and had multiple over PPG seasons. This wasn't a pro scout find. BT gave him the deal based on his stats...had he been a UFA he would have been in that range anyway. At that time he was a 9M+ player all day long and add the Calgary/not getting to UFA tax.

Montreal fans were talking about him the way Leaf fans talk about McDavid now. "Huberdeau is coming home, no need to trade for him" The biggest point drop in NHL history is not something you can just predict.
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Old 10-04-2025, 07:03 PM   #9682
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Robertson doesn't fit our contention window. It really makes no sense to acquire him.

His prime years would be wasted while we rebuild and try to draft/develop some centers. His ideal situation is being traded to a team ready to compete today.
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Old 10-04-2025, 07:06 PM   #9683
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Robertson doesn't fit our contention window. It really makes no sense to acquire him.

His prime years would be wasted while we rebuild and try to draft/develop some centers. His ideal situation is being traded to a team ready to compete today.
Your 5-10 year tank plan is not the Flames plan though
If you could build a Robertson trade around Ras you obviously do it
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Robertson doesn't fit our contention window. It really makes no sense to acquire him.

His prime years would be wasted while we rebuild and try to draft/develop some centers. His ideal situation is being traded to a team ready to compete today.
Robertson is only two years older than Zary and will likely still be in his prime for another 5-6 years.. if you can add a premiere 26 year old winger, you do it no matter where you are at..
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Old 10-04-2025, 08:15 PM   #9685
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If Huberdeau were a UFA this past summer, I have no doubt he’d have found a 6yr deal @ 8.5M.

So having him at 10.5M, yeah he’s overpaid. But a “bum”? Fukc off.
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OT but pretty funny preseason game between Florida and Tampa. Over 250 penalty minutes.
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Old 10-04-2025, 08:32 PM   #9687
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If Huberdeau were a UFA this past summer, I have no doubt he’d have found a 6yr deal @ 8.5M.

So having him at 10.5M, yeah he’s overpaid. But a “bum”? Fukc off.
No way he would get that contract.
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A bit off topic, but I wish the NHL required teams to publish their draft rankings 20 years after each draft.

Enough changes in 20 years to not get hung up about a stupid GM or a stupid head scout, but it would be fascinating to see how right and wrong each team was and how wildly different or the same each list is.

The details on the Huby contract/evaluation would be too soon as guys are likely still involved if they had input (although really, Treleving only had the one option once he traded for Huberdeau—to give him the Gaudreau contract).
You can look at all the Oilers draft rankings if you can find old issues of The Hockey News.
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I doubt Dallas would trade Robertson for Andersson but even if they did would Robertson sign long term in Calgary? Both of those scenarios don't seem very likely.
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Old 10-04-2025, 11:39 PM   #9690
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If Huberdeau were a UFA this past summer, I have no doubt he’d have found a 6yr deal @ 8.5M.

So having him at 10.5M, yeah he’s overpaid. But a “bum”? Fukc off.
More like 4 years at $6.5M.

He's had 3 years in a row where he's averaged less than 60 points per season.

Now if he was doing that getting 2nd line minutes and 2nd PP duties, those would look pretty good.

But he's getting those numbers getting all the premium ice time. When your best players getting all that premium ice time get 60 or less points, you are at best a bubble team.
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I doubt Dallas would trade Robertson for Andersson but even if they did would Robertson sign long term in Calgary? Both of those scenarios don't seem very likely.
That's why its so ridiculous some posters are like "no thanks"
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More like 4 years at $6.5M.

He's had 3 years in a row where he's averaged less than 60 points per season.

Now if he was doing that getting 2nd line minutes and 2nd PP duties, those would look pretty good.

But he's getting those numbers getting all the premium ice time. When your best players getting all that premium ice time get 60 or less points, you are at best a bubble team.
We are gonna be some pretty massive numbers for 55 point 25 goal players this summer IMO...I'm sure a lot of GMs also think he would do better in a different system too.
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Old 10-05-2025, 12:14 AM   #9693
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OT but pretty funny preseason game between Florida and Tampa. Over 250 penalty minutes.
League asked for it when they didn't suspend Greer for punching a star player in the head. Tampa brought in the goon squad and was out for revenge. Mikkola got an assist but they later took the goal away because he had a misconduct at the time lol!
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We are gonna be some pretty massive numbers for 55 point 25 goal players this summer IMO...I'm sure a lot of GMs also think he would do better in a different system too.
Yes, but those will be for 2nd or 3rd line players getting 2nd PP time.

Not players who get 55 points getting all the premium ice time.

And likely younger players with some upside, not a player who is more likely to regress.
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More like 4 years at $6.5M.

He's had 3 years in a row where he's averaged less than 60 points per season.

Now if he was doing that getting 2nd line minutes and 2nd PP duties, those would look pretty good.

But he's getting those numbers getting all the premium ice time. When your best players getting all that premium ice time get 60 or less points, you are at best a bubble team.
Ehlers just signed for 8.5 million and he is a 60 point guy. That was playing on the top PP unit on a much better powerplay and getting top minutes. There is probably no world where Huberdeau goes for as low as 6.5 million.

Boeser got 7.25 million and he is traditionally a 50-55 point guy.

8.5 million seems about right for Huberdeau.
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League asked for it when they didn't suspend Greer for punching a star player in the head. Tampa brought in the goon squad and was out for revenge. Mikkola got an assist but they later took the goal away because he had a misconduct at the time lol!



Is Hagel a star player now lol? He has tried to be a little gangster ever since he took a run at Barkov last year and is paying for that. But if you think the response from Tampa was anything normal, you just didn't pay attention. Tampa never came to play hockey. The powerplays were 20 to 5 for Florida, who are one of the most penalized teams in hockey lol.


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Ehlers just signed for 8.5 million and he is a 60 point guy. That was playing on the top PP unit on a much better powerplay and getting top minutes. There is probably no world where Huberdeau goes for as low as 6.5 million.

Boeser got 7.25 million and he is traditionally a 50-55 point guy.

8.5 million seems about right for Huberdeau.
Both players are younger with some upside.

Boesser is signed through his 35 season.

Ehlers is signed through his 35 season.

Huberdeau would signed through his 38 season if you suggest a 6 year deal, but you are paying for 6 seasons at an age where historically players decline.

Huberdeau's age and decline is what makes the 6 year deal at $8.5M unlikely.
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Is Hagel a star player now lol? He has tried to be a little gangster ever since he took a run at Barkov last year and is paying for that. But if you think the response from Tampa was anything normal, you just didn't pay attention. Tampa never came to play hockey. The powerplays were 20 to 5 for Florida, who are one of the most penalized teams in hockey lol.


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90pts isn’t star level numbers lol?
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I don't see Huberdeau's contract as a problem. Is he overpaid? Sure, but what else would we be doing with the money? We'd probably just overpay someone else to come play here because we don't have any up and coming star prospects we need the cap space for anyhow.

Nurse's contract is terrible because they could really use that cap space for some help for the dynamic duo. We're not in that situation at all. For us it's just a poor return on the dollar. I like Huberdeau and he seems to have a great attitude and is putting in the effort, so I don't fault him at all for taking the money. Just sucks for us we aren't getting the production we had hoped for is all.

What are we going to do with all our capspace anyways? I don't see any superstar centers hitting UFA that would realistically pick us, and we don't have any young prospects that are going to eat it all up. Although it would be worth it if you could get McDavid as a UFA just to listen to the uproar from sweatpant nation.
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90pts isn’t star level numbers lol?
I guess it depends on what you consider a star player. I definitely would not consider Hagel one, if he can keep up that production for a few years then maybe.
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