2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Flamenspiel]

The Flames tried to trade up for Barkov at the time and he has always had the higher ceiling. That being said, Monahan is having a bad season, and if you compare the career points it’s not been that much of a difference.

I have no problem with the Monahan pick, Barkov was not available. At this point though, Barkov is mvp caliber and hopefully they beat Tampa Bay and Carolina. I think he is in Mackinnon territory and had never really played on a good team before. Ekblad is also looking good.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People thought that when Monahan had better stats then him...so at that time he was.

Barkov was always better than his raw stats.

So, even when Monny was scoring more, Barkov was worth more.


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[Cali Panthers Fan]

^Yes, thank you, that was my point in the debates way back when, but I was often shouted down.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Barkov was always better than his raw stats.

So, even when Monny was scoring more, Barkov was worth more.


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and better. Barkov has always had the high hockey IQ and skill the Flames would kill for at number one centre.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

Lucic has been one of the only forwards to be showing up every game with compete level. Is he as fast these days, no, but he is also very savvy with the puck, makes huge hits, creates fear for the opposition when he is on the ice, is a very good locker room guy and brings experience and the right attitude. Every time there is a hot line, he seems to be on it. I get the cap hit isn't ideal but the intangibles Lucic brings to the team cannot be monetized.

He replaced Neal who was a cancer in the locker room, was such a liability on the ice that the team was better off if he wasn't on the ice and didn't produce at any level (scoring, hitting, locker room, compete) At the time Neal was signed, most thought it was a bit of an over payment but it was a big name signing and we finally had a top RW'er for Johnny and Mony. It just turned out that we also got Lindholm and talks were that Peter's wanted to try Lindholm on the top line as RW. So I don't know if that pissed off Neal or why he sucked and sulked so bad when he got his shot to play on that line or any line after that so bad - but getting Lucic in exchange for that dumpster fire was a blessing.

THIS. A thousand times.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Just wanted to qualify this statement with the fact that Lucic leads all Flames forwards this year with 25 goals against when he's been on the ice at 5v5.

However, he's been on the ice for 18 Flames goals... whereas Sam Bennett has seen 23 goals against and only 10 goals for.

Yes, Lucic is -9. And his linemate Backlund is -8. That’s not a coincidence and probably has a fair bit to do with deployment, especially against Edmonton in the 2 blowouts. Those two games account for -6 for Lucic.

[dino7c]

Lucic is trying hard...he has made some ridiculously bad passes in his own zone though. I can think of 4 or 5 off the top of my head that directly lead to goals against.

McDavid in the slot last week...FFS of all guys

[Mattman]

What would it take to get Conor Garland from Arizona?

No speculation and no rumour here, but based on the couple of tweets I've seen about him it looks like he is available to some degree?

He's got 9 goals with 25 points in 31 games so far, and this team does really need help scoring. Also on the PK.

Would be less than a Tkachuk, Gaudreau, or Monahan straight up so maybe that's a secondary trade that Calgary could make to shake up the team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mattman

What would it take to get Conor Garland from Arizona?

No speculation and no rumour here, but based on the couple of tweets I've seen about him it looks like he is available to some degree?

He's got 9 goals with 25 points in 31 games so far, and this team does really need help scoring. Also on the PK.

Would be less than a Tkachuk, Gaudreau, or Monahan straight up so maybe that's a secondary trade that Calgary could make to shake up the team.

Now or offseason...2 weeks is a long time to wait for a player and why would the Yotes do it?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by New Era

You could play that game with pretty well every Flames player.

Spin it any way you want, but Girodano is hot garbage.

Spin it any way you want, but Andersson is hot garbage.

Spin it any way you want, but Markstrom is hot garbage.

Spin it any way you want, but Gaudreau is hot garbage.

Spin it any way you want, but Tkachuk is hot garbage.

And so on, and so on, and so on.

Lol, why even bother watching the Flames

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Mattman

What would it take to get Conor Garland from Arizona?

No speculation and no rumour here, but based on the couple of tweets I've seen about him it looks like he is available to some degree?

He's got 9 goals with 25 points in 31 games so far, and this team does really need help scoring. Also on the PK.

Would be less than a Tkachuk, Gaudreau, or Monahan straight up so maybe that's a secondary trade that Calgary could make to shake up the team.

Just my opinion, but Garland is another smallish winger, and we already have Johnny, Mang, Dube, and several other smallish guys in the minors. We are all clamoring for mgmt to call up Phillips too. Garland has one thing we need though, which is a right-shooting RW, but I think we need to still get more size in the organization (somebody will inevitably jump on me for saying that, but YES-size is still important in this league, just look at the Stanley Cup finalists for the last 10 years). Unless we can trade one of our small guys for him, I would pass.

[Hackey]

Barkov is basically the opposite of Monahan. Monahan is a one dimensional player and Barkov is about as well rounded of a player as you can find.

[wired]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Lol, why even bother watching the Flames

That is the million dollar question isn't it.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Lol, why even bother watching the Flames

Ya kinda missed the point there Sparky. A post in the defense of a player being obvious hot garbage was to spin it and use the same framing with another player's name inserted into the post. The point of the post was to say that you could apply that to any player, right or not, and that it was a word game more than anything.

[shutout]

https://theathletic.com/2472270/2021...rade-deadline/

Duhatschek's thoughts on some player movements.

"...imagine trade scenarios, I try to focus on players who realistically might come available. I see three candidates that might fit the bill in Calgary – Jake DeBrusk in Boston, who’s had a difficult season; Christian Dvorak in Arizona, who is mired in a deep scoring slump at the moment; and Travis Konecny in Philadelphia who, like DeBrusk, was a healthy scratch earlier this season. Dvorak was Matthew Tkachuk’s junior linemate in London and they were really good together. Konecny has been linked to Calgary in any deal that might involve Johnny Gaudreau effectively going home to Philadelphia and DeBrusk would be a nice fit here, in terms of the way he plays."

Replacing Gaudreau, Monahan, and Bennett as the core pieces, plus whatever else is required to essentially bring in the core pieces of Konecny, DeBrusk, and Dvorak.

I would be very happy with the change out of these six players depending upon what the balancing pieces happened to be.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by shutout

Duhatschek's thoughts on some player movements.

Replacing Gaudreau, Monahan, and Bennett as the core pieces, plus whatever else is required to essentially bring in the core pieces of Konecny, DeBrusk, and Dvorak.

I would be very happy with the change out of these six players depending upon what the balancing pieces happened to be.

Dvorak for Bennett is a wash, so sure and I like Konecny for Gaudreau but failing to see the value in swapping Monahan for DeBrusk.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Dvorak for Bennett is a wash, so sure and I like Konecny for Gaudreau but failing to see the value in swapping Monahan for DeBrusk.

Dvorak is a significant upgrade on Bennett.

[keenan87]

Honestly, a deal involving Konecny and Gaudreau just makes too much sense to me.

Now for some fantasy world:
Trade 1: Konecny for Gaudreau (add in some other smaller pieces on both sides)
Trade 2: Monahan + Bennett for Filip Forsberg
Trade 3: Tkachuk + Zary + 1st Rounder for Eichel
Trade 4: Backlund + Kylington + Pelletier for Dvorak
Trade 5: Giordano for Debrusk + Kase

Forsberg-Eichel-Dube
Mangiapane-Lindholm-Konecny
DeBrusk-Dvorak-Kase
Lucic-Ryan-Ritchie

Hanifin-Tanev
Andersson-Valimaki
Nesterov-Mackey

Markstrom

Not many prospects left.. but the roster is pretty young and start filling up the cupboards again in 2022. It would have been nice if the GM had some foresight and traded Hamonic and Brodie for some packages at last year's deadline.

[ForeverFlameFan]

You’re not getting Dvorak without giving up Monahan. AZ is just as bare as we are at C.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

You’re not getting Dvorak without giving up Monahan. AZ is just as bare as we are at C.

Arizona is in need of prospects and draft picks as well.