2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Nelson]

Doesn't depth usually just mean AHL with Treliving?

[TheIronMaiden]

Hopefully one of the signings is Ritchie.

[djsFlames]

Deal for Tarasenko or sign Saad, please.

Need more punch up front if you're "going for it" with Sutter. Which for us means a second round appearance.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He didn't overspend on a good depth forward.
You can debate if teams would be better served by sitting out UFA season but the fact is if you are going to play in that market that's what you pay. So how is it an overspend?

Because it's 6 years and goes until he's almost 36.
You don't think the term is too long for his age?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Because it's 6 years and goes until he's almost 36.
You don't think the term is too long for his age?

Shorter term = higher AAV. How much more were you willing to pay?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Doesn't depth usually just mean AHL with Treliving?

That is true.

His "big fish" are middle sixers.

Even Lindholm was that at the time he acquired him.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Shorter term = higher AAV. How much more were you willing to pay?

Probably not more than 5.5 x 3 years
I doubt he'd do that, so I probably wouldn't have signed him at all.

I would rather have given Pius Suter a 5 mill x 2 year (and that's way above what he signed for).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Probably not more than 5.5 x 3 years
I doubt he'd do that, so I probably wouldn't have signed him at all.

I would rather have given Pius Suter a 5 mill x 2 year (and that's way above what he signed for).

Free agency - how does it work?

[Angelino]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He didn't overspend on a good depth forward.
You can debate if teams would be better served by sitting out UFA season but the fact is if you are going to play in that market that's what you pay. So how is it an overspend?

I believe the main issue is the term for a player nearly 30 years old. The same deal for half the term is less egregious.

[Braden]

Brad did have a comment along the lines of see if the trade market bears fruit. Fruit must be Eichel right?
RIGHT?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Because it's 6 years and goes until he's almost 36.
You don't think the term is too long for his age?

Of course it is.
As is the case with ALL these UFAs.
Which means it's not an overpay.

You may not want to spend $100 on shoes, but if that's what the shoes cost that's what you pay.
Or don't buy the shoes.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Of course it is.
As is the case with ALL these UFAs.
Which means it's not an overpay.

You may not want to spend $100 on shoes, but if that's what the shoes cost that's what you pay.
Or don't buy the shoes.

I guess I agree that as far as overpaid free agents go, it's about the market rate (including term).

But I'd rather make the shoes myself. Or buy some discount ones that were able to find buyers after a month of being up for sale.

I actually think Coleman could get 50+ points (a career high) this year or next year. He's a great player. He fills holes too. He seems like a great guy too.
But again, it all comes down to term for me.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Of course it is.
As is the case with ALL these UFAs.
Which means it's not an overpay.

You may not want to spend $100 on shoes, but if that's what the shoes cost that's what you pay.
Or don't buy the shoes.

But if you bought similar shoes from Raymonds store, then Brouwers store then Neals store and they all terrible then at some point you just have to stop buying them unless its a great deal. Which this was not.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Angelino

I believe the main issue is the term for a player nearly 30 years old. The same deal for half the term is less egregious.

You don’t get it. The “same deal fo half the term” is not available. Less years? More AAV required.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

But if you bought similar shoes from Raymonds store, then Brouwers store then Neals store and they all terrible then at some point you just have to stop buying them unless its a great deal. Which this was not.

I would suggest people making comparisons from player to player are doing so because it fits their narrative considering there's not a lot in common with them.

I'll ask the same question I asked The Donkey - what WOULD have made you happy today?

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You don’t get it. The “same deal fo half the term” is not available. Less years? More AAV required.

Exactly. Then don't sign him at all.
Wait for the discount portion of free agency, or just use your own players.

Not worth signing an asset that will inevitably have considerable negative value.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Exactly. Then don't sign him at all.
Wait for the discount portion of free agency, or just use your own players.

Not worth signing an asset that will inevitably have considerable negative value.

LOL - “your own players”? Which ones are ready for a second line wing role? Phillips?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Braden

Brad did have a comment along the lines of see if the trade market bears fruit. Fruit must be Eichel right?
RIGHT?

Eichel is the only fruit I want us to bite into.

[The Cobra]

A piece of advice.

If you feel the need to say, “ I don’t mind the player, but I would have given him less term and AAV, don’t”.

Hint. The GM would have preferred that too. It wasn’t the market.


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[Burning Beard]

Some people would only be happy if the Flames acquired Hedman for a 3rd round pick (half retained), Mackinnon for 2 2nds (extension signed for league minimum) and Eichel picked up on waivers for nothing.

Armchair management is easy to do but I reckon it's a lot more tricky in real life. I'm no Treliving apologist at all but some of the good moves get dismissed with no sound reason because some people just want to complain about everything.