The change happened in 2024, and Picard was born in 2305. I don't see how the change would affect his mom directly being that she wouldn't even be born yet
Yeah, seems to be a few "I definitely pick up everything in the episode while I'm also on my phone" type watchers in this thread...
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When was WW3 supposed to have started? I think perhaps 2024 is supposed to be in that era.
The public eradication crowd was very reminiscent of the people at the show trial in Encounter at Farpoint and All Good Things, and that crowd was supposed to be a WW3 era courtroom.
Maybe someone helped Colonel Green win the war?
Just thinking out loud.
Remember that Picard has to find "The Watcher"......
Watched a clip of Picard this is horrible! Same crap camera work, look, stupid decisions by everyone. Borg beams onto the ship they all have a moronic blank stare and wait for everything to turn to ####.
Did you miss the part about a possible alliance with the Borg and the entire ethical debate as to whether welcoming a former enemy into the Federation was a good idea?
Did you miss the part about a possible alliance with the Borg and the entire ethical debate as to whether welcoming a former enemy into the Federation was a good idea?
You mean before the time line jump? Because if I understood things, Erradication Day meant that the Borg queen was the end of the Borq species. But fixing the timeline would mean that the Borg would return full force in the Delta quadrant. To me that's quite the ethical dilemma. By returning things to normal JLP would doom billions to the Borg horror in the Delta Quadrant in exchange for a kinder and gentler return of the Federation.
To me, maybe the space nazi confederation might not be such a bad idea. I mean clearly the dominion never shows up as Gal Dukat is dead before the events of DS9.
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If you watch "Q Who", it is implied that dialog with the Borg is possible. It's just that the Federation is so hillbilly that the Borg consider them to be meat.
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I didn't like those two Picard episodes, its like a recycled greatest hits attempt where they pulled every concept that made TNG popular and just clumsily kludge it together to a semi-sensical storyline. We got Borg, Borg Queen, Time Travel, Mirror Universe, Q, all in one story that is pretty lazily glue together with random modern catch phrases and edgy character moments. It's exactly what they did with STD, but just so we aren't rehashing the writing board ideas again, we'll just call Mirror Universe an alternate timeline. Yeah that'll be new and fool the fans.
I was hoping ST:Picard would have it's Riker's beard moment this season, but nope. Don't really have much hope for ST:New Worlds now either. Paramount need to treat the Kurtzman writing crew like the Star Wars story group and just replace them w/ Star Trek directors/writers who understand and respect the universe (ala. Jon Favreau/Dave Faloni soft reboot of the D+ Star Wars universe). Mike McMahan from Lower Decks seems to fit the bill.
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If you watch "Q Who", it is implied that dialog with the Borg is possible. It's just that the Federation is so hillbilly that the Borg consider them to be meat.
In Voyager they engage in negotiations and conclude a semi-treaty with the borg to develop biological weapons against Species 847 whatever
Not only was federation morality severely destroyed by these episodes, but also the intelligence of the borg. Really, one starfleet hologram was able to come up with a modification to the primary building block of borg technology that allowed them to overcome their greatest enemy in a few hours? The whole collective couldn't come up with it though? It wasn't some new technology the borg had never seen, it was their own damn technology that apparently the Doctor was much better at modifying than them.
But you see, this was still all more ok to me than current discovery and some elements of plot/story development in picard.
Not only was federation morality severely destroyed by these episodes, but also the intelligence of the borg. Really, one starfleet hologram was able to come up with a modification to the primary building block of borg technology that allowed them to overcome their greatest enemy in a few hours? The whole collective couldn't come up with it though? It wasn't some new technology the borg had never seen, it was their own damn technology that apparently the Doctor was much better at modifying than them.
But you see, this was still all more ok to me than current discovery and some elements of plot/story development in picard.
Yes! Yes! Let the hate flow through you!
Star Trek just isnt the same without disappointing its fans bitterly!
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Not only was federation morality severely destroyed by these episodes, but also the intelligence of the borg. Really, one starfleet hologram was able to come up with a modification to the primary building block of borg technology that allowed them to overcome their greatest enemy in a few hours? The whole collective couldn't come up with it though? It wasn't some new technology the borg had never seen, it was their own damn technology that apparently the Doctor was much better at modifying than them.
But you see, this was still all more ok to me than current discovery and some elements of plot/story development in picard.
Kurtzman story group is just recycling what Berman started with the Borg w/ the Doctor/Seven in Voyager without understanding deeper story telling consequences of Villain Decay. It's just Voyagers lazy shallow writing taken to its next logical step and updated for the twitter generation.
The lack of really bad writing really shone through in the season finale of Star Trek Discovery tonight. It was a pretty lackluster season, and the finale just felt lazy and they did the whole ridiculous solutions to problems to get them fixed in a hurry with no fuss no muss.
They also did the thing
Spoiler!
You know the thing, where you kill off a main character, and everyone goes oh my god I can't believe they killed him, then do the miraculous resurrection thing at the end, and yeah, I'm talking about Book.
Also here's the other annoying thing. They spend a whole episode around learning how to communicate with the 10C. Then in the last episode Saru's girlfriend simply mind melds with them to communicate.
Oh and to escape from the bubble, they literally burn out the spore drive forever, and they're like 10's of thousands of light years from home, with only the normal warp drive, which is probably some lame nod to Voyager, but then the 10C simply send them home.
I mean I want to give a bit of credit, the Actors clearly put everything into this show despite how ludicrous the writing is, and how silly the whole season plot line is. Clearly the set designers are very creative and good.
But man, its the writing, its just so terrible.
Also I knew they were going to bring Tilly back, and she was just as annoying as always.
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The lack of really bad writing really shone through in the season finale of Star Trek Discovery tonight. It was a pretty lackluster season, and the finale just felt lazy and they did the whole ridiculous solutions to problems to get them fixed in a hurry with no fuss no muss.
They also did the thing
Spoiler!
You know the thing, where you kill off a main character, and everyone goes oh my god I can't believe they killed him, then do the miraculous resurrection thing at the end, and yeah, I'm talking about Book.
Also here's the other annoying thing. They spend a whole episode around learning how to communicate with the 10C. Then in the last episode Saru's girlfriend simply mind melds with them to communicate.
Oh and to escape from the bubble, they literally burn out the spore drive forever, and they're like 10's of thousands of light years from home, with only the normal warp drive, which is probably some lame nod to Voyager, but then the 10C simply send them home.
I mean I want to give a bit of credit, the Actors clearly put everything into this show despite how ludicrous the writing is, and how silly the whole season plot line is. Clearly the set designers are very creative and good.
But man, its the writing, its just so terrible.
Also I knew they were going to bring Tilly back, and she was just as annoying as always.
Your brief summaries are enough so that I don't have to profane my mind by watching that filth.
it's beautiful!
