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Old 11-08-2016, 08:36 PM   #941
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538 confusing forecasts puts clinton back to 52%, only cause virgina finally went to Clinton, about 45 min late
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fivethirtyeight FORECAST BOT 10:35 PM
Clinton wins Virginia. Our model now gives her a 52 percent chance of winning the election.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:37 PM   #943
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Honestly, the Democrats didn't catch on when Obama beat Clinton. She is a terrible candidate.

They could have easily won this with a half decent candidate with less baggage. The insistence on running her again is leading to this.
Sanders must be pissed right now.
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This is complete lunacy. I get the "middle finger to the status quo" argument, but do these people not realize that Trump is the status quo, but in caricature form? This isn't a middle finger, it's self-immolation.
Lowering your blood pressure by slitting your own throat.
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Nate Silver: ABC News just called Virginia for Clinton, which improved her odds in our forecast. As a reminder, though, Clinton’s problems aren’t in the called states so far — they’re in the numerous uncalled states where Trump is either favored with most of the vote in (as in Florida) or states like Michigan where pre-election polls favored Clinton but the actual result is now too close to call.
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538 has North Carolina back to 50/50 which gives her the edge.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:38 PM   #947
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What could she have done? Really, she ran a pretty much flawless campaign. She had maybe one gaffe (deplorables comment). She maybe could have been more aggressive but aggressive women are looked down on.

What could she have done different. Other than be a man?
She could have hated immigrants.
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What could she have done? Really, she ran a pretty much flawless campaign. She had maybe one gaffe (deplorables comment). She maybe could have been more aggressive but aggressive women are looked down on.

What could she have done different. Other than be a man?
The only thing that bothered me about her was some of her mannerisms

I don't know why, but things like this rub me the wrong way



Of course, not nearly enough to have thought favourably of Trump
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What could she have done? Really, she ran a pretty much flawless campaign. She had maybe one gaffe (deplorables comment). She maybe could have been more aggressive but aggressive women are looked down on.

What could she have done different. Other than be a man?
I don't think it's because she's a women. It's how unlikable she is. Is that related to her being a women? Maybe, but I don't think you can be attacked for the last 25 years and it not leave damage
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It's amazing how wrong the polling data was, regardless of the final outcome.
I find that more and more, polls seem to be getting less accurate. Not sure the reasons for it. Maybe relying on online data too much?
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Well, SNL will have good material.
If they're not rounded up and liquidated.
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I can't believe this.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:38 PM   #953
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Did the white crowd vote for Obama when he promised the same things? It's ridiculous to say race isn't a big factor in this election.
Many millions of Americans who voted for Obama in the last election voted for Trump today.
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If Trump holds on in Michigan and Wisconsin, there is no path for Clinton. (There's only a small one if he wins one of them.) - Harry Enten
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CNN projects Virginia for Hillary
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:39 PM   #956
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So I bet Kasich wishes he'd taken that "you get to run foreign and domestic policy" VP spot right about now...
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Wisconsin not looking good. Even if she wins Michigan she then needs Arizona.
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I find that more and more, polls seem to be getting less accurate. Not sure the reasons for it. Maybe relying on online data too much?
Polling was accurate here. Clinton by 1.5 in the popular vote is pretty close to Clinton by 3.5.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:40 PM   #959
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If Trump holds on in Michigan and Wisconsin, there is no path for Clinton. (There's only a small one if he wins one of them.) - Harry Enten
I think that's right, and I also think if he wins one of them he wins both.
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Lowering your blood pressure by slitting your own throat.
More like lowering your blood pressure by decapitating yourself

Can't believe trump is winning just #### off already with this.
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