2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

seems like the Flames have stationed a scout in Washington. Lots of games there recently were a Flames scout has been there.

Chris Kuc @ChrisKuc
Scouts assigned seats for Capitals-Kings at Capital One Arena:

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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bunk

It's really not. Basically the same top 9 as now, but trading Frolik for Stone. Dube or Lazar could easily slot into the 4th line.

Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington are inexperienced, sure, but all really strong players.

The Flames top 6 would be absurdly dangerous.

Capped out spending less than $5M on goaltending is a terrible move. Bennett is not getting a $500k raise he is going to cost at least $3M imo at the very least.

[Flash Walken]

I just don't see how these three things can all happen for the flames at the same time

1) Trade for Mark Stone
2) Keep Brodie for next season
3) Move Michael Stone

I don't know how you justify moving Brodie playing 24 minutes a night at 4.9 while keeping Mike Stone at 0 minutes a night at 3.5. But then you're talking about trading for his brother and then moving him once his brother arrives. That's...weird.

So then you move Brodie to make space for the Stone brothers...that's a weird Freddie Hamilton situation.

In my mind the best option is to try to move Mike Stone to ottawa as they are likely one of the few teams in the league with any value attached to Mike Stone right now.

[Vinny01]

Mike Stone’s career could be over for all we know.

I do wonder about Stone+1st for Dzingel?

Flames dump the Stone contract that right now is only movable by sending a pick or buyout. The Sens take the deal on to keep Mark happy. They get the 2nd line winger they need? Do the Sens have a left shot D or pending ufa goalie that they could add?

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

If Frolik and Brodie/Hamonic are moved...maybe. This is what the team would look like, bolded numbers are speculative:

Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Lindholm (4.85)
Tkachuk (8) - Backlund (5.35) - Stone (8.5)
Bennett (2.5) - Jankowski (1.675) - Neal (5.75)
XXX (1M) - Ryan (3.125) - Czarnik (1.25)
XXX (0.8) XXX (0.8)

Giordano (6.75) - Kylington (0.730)
Hanifin (4.95) - Hamonic (3.86)
Andersson (0.755) - Valimaki (0.894)
Stone (3.5)

Rittich (3)
Gillies (0.75)

Brouwer (1.5)

Total: 83.4M

All you’ve proven here is that we can acquire Stone (if lots of things fall into place) but that we have to sacrifice a chance of winning the Stanley cup to do it, because that goalie combo is simply not going to cut it in my opinion.

Gillies will have to play 20+ games and he hasn’t impressed enough at nhl or ahl level to give any confidence that he can succeed. If we are scrimping on the starting goalie at 3 million then we need a reliable backup, which will cost 2 million+

Oh, and I’m a massive fan of Kylingon...but top line, come on?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

seems like the Flames have stationed a scout in Washington. Lots of games there recently were a Flames scout has been there.

Chris Kuc @ChrisKuc
Scouts assigned seats for Capitals-Kings at Capital One Arena:

Coyotes
Flames
Stars
Oilers
Devils

Burakovsky?

For Frolik?

[Toonage]

Flames also had scouts present for the Bruins-Kings game a few days back. Maybe its the Kings they are scouting?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Flames also had scouts present for the Bruins-Kings game a few days back. Maybe its the Kings they are scouting?

Carl Hagelin maybe?

tons of PO experience.

[Shazam]

Chara for Stone, E5

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Where did you get that? Corsica has 162 minutes five on five and 8 goals ... 2.94

With Frolik they have 14 goals in 209 minutes and a higher five on five rate.

I think Bennett helps them create more, but they don't finish with Bennett, lately they're not even creating with Frolik.

I got my numbers off Corsica. As I stated in my post all my numbers are from the span of the previous three seasons so maybe you are only looking at the sample of just this season. You should also look at the bigger sample for 3M as well.

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

So then please remind me, why are they not together then? If they’re as good as a line as you think they are, then why aren’t they still together?

Because the Backlund's primary line role is to check top lines, not to score goals. Frolik is at this point a little bit better of a possession player than Bennett, which keeps top line opponents hemmed in more often and allows Peters to play Bennett with Neal, which this far has been the only combination that gives us a solid 3rd line. I'm not advocating for Tkachuk-Backlund-Bennett to be reunited -I am telling you that calling their lack of production together "glaring" is a brutal claim.

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Oh, and I’m a massive fan of Kylingon...but top line, come on?

There's a bizarre subset of Flames fans who think Brodie is a 3rd pair defenseman and is carried by Mark Giordano. And thst Rasmus Andersson is suddenly ready for top pair duties as an acfual plan A. They really have zero interest in giving Brodie any credit for this team's success or our top pair's success.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Flames also had scouts present for the Bruins-Kings game a few days back. Maybe its the Kings they are scouting?

Toffoli would be a nice add, or Campbell.

[Split98]

Is Stone in the $8-9M range the contract we'd expect Ottawa to have to offer, or is that what he's worth league-wide?

From the range I've seen Tkachuk mentioned, I'm beyond confused these days with what players are worth.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Flames also had scouts present for the Bruins-Kings game a few days back. Maybe its the Kings they are scouting?

Hagelin makes a ton of sense from a rental perspective as he would be cheap and has won.

I know it is very unlikely but what about a blockbuster for both Quick and Toffoli?

Smith (cap purposes only) 1st, Dube, Parsons/Gillies, maybe another piece?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Carl Hagelin maybe?

tons of PO experience.

Maybe seen as a cheaper alternative to Zuccarello

[Husky]

Haglenin maybe as #4 lw. Expecting anything more is a waste.

[TheScorpion]

Hagelin has speed for days and two Cups, but not much else. He'd be better than Kunitz.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Hagelin has speed for days and two Cups, but not much else. He'd be better than Kunitz.

Honestly, I would take Zach Kassian over Kunitz.... and I hate Kassian.

[Vinny01]

It depends on what the Flames want to do but here are the spots that would be open for me going into the playoffs

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-OPEN
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
OPEN-Ryan-OPEN
Hathaway

If the flames upgrade the 2nd line RW spot and retain Frolik he can take one of the open spots on the 4th line. I am not opposed to Hathaway keeping his spot either but if the Flames went and acquired 2 top 9 vets to play with Ryan on the 4th line I am fine with that.

On the backend I would welcome a veteran bottom pair guy but if Stone is healthy then I do think we have some nice depth

[TheScorpion]

Lol, Kassian is a menace. Nty.

The one detracting factor about Hagelin is his salary: $4 million. It's already been involved in a retained salary transaction so the Kings are on the hook for $3.75. Hagelin at $2 million is a little expensive but he's also a pure rental and the Flames are shaping up to have plenty of TDL cap space.

[Phagoof]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I just don’t see Treliving over paying for Stone, I still like the idea of bringing in Zuccarello for probably half the price.


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and half the player if that