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Old 04-16-2025, 06:03 PM   #9501
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"We have to recognize we are doing this to our children"


He claims, with no evidence whatsoever. But it starts the blame game rolling, and soon he'll have a fake target to send people after.
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Old 04-16-2025, 06:24 PM   #9502
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Might be fake because it's anonymous, but lol if not.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vot...172603524.html

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13."I voted for him three times, and now he really ####ed me up. I lost my federal job with the VA, my 401(k) was reduced to about $85K from $125K in a week, and I am not sure when I turn 62 in 2035 that there will be any money in Social Security left for me."

"And even worse, I’d spent most of my savings (in tens of thousands) buying his stuff like shoes, coins, cards, and DJT stocks. My wife and my two daughters have left me because they couldn’t stand my MAGA attitude for all these years. I do not regret being a MAGA, but now I wonder if I am really not too smart like people said."
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Definitely seems fake. But also accurate
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Old 04-16-2025, 09:16 PM   #9504
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I am hoping for a severe recession or depression in the states for all the Trump stupidity. I just wish there was a way that Canada wouldn't get caught up in it.

I had to deal with American Customs Brokers a little while ago. They were extremely serious, almost paranoid, in their warnings about CBP, which I've never experienced before. I actually felt bad for the poor guys. If they didn't live in a small border town with probably the few decent jobs around, you know they'd probably quit.

I also saw an email from DHL that they're temporarily suspending Canadian business to American consumer (B2C) deliveries over $800. CBP is requiring those shipments to have formal entry processing which is a lot more complicated and time consuming.
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What does CBP stand for? Canadian Border Patrol?
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"We have to recognize we are doing this to our children"


He claims, with no evidence whatsoever. But it starts the blame game rolling, and soon he'll have a fake target to send people after.
His remarks about autistic people were cruel and demeaning.
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Old 04-16-2025, 10:31 PM   #9507
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The more upsetting thing that took place before the Bannon interview was Maher humanizing Trump in his little "book review" dinner at the White House and calling himself a "centrist".

Trump moderated himself at a dinner with you and Kid Rock where he was fully aware that you were going to talk about it on your show this week. What a revelation.

I'm not sure how a guy as seemingly intelligent at Bill Maher falls for that s###, but then again he has developed a habit of outing himself as a rather dim person over the last handful of years.
Yeah, Bill Maher is not an intelligent human being at all. He's quite stupid when you follow his views on everything. He's the 90's Joe Rogan still hanging on to the successful persona he built up.
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Old 04-16-2025, 10:37 PM   #9508
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I dont really understand what Maher has been doing for the past couple years. I don't follow him or watch his shows but he pops up from time to time.

I think he considers himself a centrist, but some of his takes on social issues land him pretty right.

I guess to answer my own question, it seems like he's just showing us who he really is.

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He's a rich, white guy that favors policies that make him richer which pushes him right and he also hates PC culture which also pushes him right. But he likes to claim to be centrist.

There's a million Bill Mahers now. The "I'M LEFT/CENTRIST SO IF I HATE WHAT THE DEMS ARE DOING SOMETHING'S WROOOOONNGGG!!!!" They're all full of absolute ****. They're about money and fame and nothing else. Supporting the right no matter how vile things get there is who they are because they have no values but fame and financial gain.
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Does that mean his lawyer will be federally charged for doing his job?
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Old 04-16-2025, 10:53 PM   #9510
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That's wrong

AoC's populist appeal and rhethoric is exactly what Americans would vote for. It's essentially what got Trump so many votes from people who know zilch about politics. The very basic core of AoC's hypothetical platform:

- The status quo is not okay
- We have a plan to implement change
- The change will help everyday Americans with everyday expenses

This... is essentially what sold undecided voters on MAGA.

And it's essentially why Kamala Harris lost the previous election - she represents the status quo, does not have a plan to implement change, and the Biden administration just watched as wealth became further and further concentrated in the hands of the 1%


why won't AoC gain traction?

It's not because the "people" won't get behind her. She's the most magnetic political personality in the States since Obama.

It's because the democrat party won't get behind her.

They are, at their core, a capitalist, right-of-center political party. It's just that USA's concept of center is so skewed that they are labelled a left-leaning party.

Democrat politicians want the status quo of free market capitalism. They're even happy standing idle collecting their paycheque under the Trump regime.

And they are not going to risk losing their multi millionaire, billionaire backers by allowing AoC to rise up. Because the solution to everything that ailes the Americans has always been "Taxing the ultra-wealthy".

I wouldn't confuse AoC with some socialist far lefter. She's... just a regular left-of-center politician who would be closer to Liberal-aligned in our Country.

Her power is her populist appeal.
Wonderful post and so true. I still in remember being floored when girlysports suggested Bernie Sanders was a "left wing, liberal nut" while understanding that his policies and values would probably have had him center or even right in Canada back in 2016 when the debate was going on, lol.

US politics is completely skewed because both parties require wealth transferred from the lower/middle class to the upper class because of their donors. They need to make up what a "left wing, nutjob" is to keep wealth transferring up through both parties.

Bernie Sanders/AOC are threats to what these parties are doing so they get labeled absurdly to discredit and ensure they don't get elected. For Democrat billionaire donors "opposing" four years of a GOP government is better than having Sanders/AOC in power.
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Old 04-16-2025, 11:15 PM   #9511
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I definitely get the sense that they are sweating over the tourism boycott even more than tariffs in some regions.

Andrew Chang has a good piece recently uploaded that talks about the economic fallout and it sounds like it could be significant.

He's a very smart person, but at the end of the day, not a single person supporting Trump will ever get that side of things. They'll be fed complete bull**** blaming the left for any drops in the economy.
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It's going to be significant and it threatens both sides of the border, we're not immune to the effects either. Already hearing rumors some Americans are rethinking trips to Canada as they feel the may not be welcome now. Also some significant potential cuts to our airlines, airports etc. as flights are cut back. I'm hearing WestJet is already considering potential layoffs, they have redeployed as many aircraft as they can but there is only so many routes to fly. And Air Canada has an even larger transborder presence.
Everything I've seen has Canadian travel bookings at hotels, resorts etc up significantly due to .....Canadians not travelling to the US. So yes, that will affect air travel companies (although you suggest that could be to Americans not traveling to Canada when the big hit and likely source of layoffs is Canadians not travelling to the US).

But overall we're way better off with Canadians spending their money in Canada due to that ****hole country going full****hole.
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Stuff like this is why, if it comes down to Pete or AOC, they have to go with AOC. She's just as well-spoken, but far more authentic and charismatic. She's also not an extension of the Democratic establishment, is willing to go after right-wing media the way Trump is willing to go after his media "enemies," and she's willing to talk about the things that the Democratic donor class don't want her to talk about.

Pete represents everything people already hate about the Democrats. AOC is the antithesis of that.

EDIT: Ignore the annoying content creator.

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Stuff like this is why, if it comes down to Pete or AOC, they have to go with AOC. She's just as well-spoken, but far more authentic and charismatic. She's also not an extension of the Democratic establishment, is willing to go after right-wing media the way Trump is willing to go after his media "enemies," and she's willing to talk about the things that the Democratic donor class don't want her to talk about.

Pete represents everything people already hate about the Democrats. AOC is the antithesis of that.

EDIT: Ignore the annoying content creator.

The bolded is a 100% stop on her getting anywhere in the Democratic party.
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What does CBP stand for? Canadian Border Patrol?

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...crease/682480/

GOP lawmakers are preparing reconciliation bill with $90-175 BILLION in new funding for immigration enforcement.

ICE's entire annual budget is ~$9 billion.

Inside the Trump administration's plan for the real mass deportation
Standard procedure of becoming a dictatorship: create your own paramilitary/police force that sidesteps the need for support from the police and military. Comparing ICE to SA troops is spot on, they are exactly the start of that.

Wanting to become an ICE employee is already a great screening process for the kind of people you'd want in your private army: loyalists, people who will do what they're being paid to do, people who just enjoy cracking heads...

Any of those types make for great foot soldiers.

Republicans very explicitly said out loud that they don't want their people to need to vote anymore after Trumps 2nd term. They meant it, and they're acting on it.
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Wonderful post and so true. I still in remember being floored when girlysports suggested Bernie Sanders was a "left wing, liberal nut" while understanding that his policies and values would probably have had him center or even right in Canada back in 2016 when the debate was going on, lol.

US politics is completely skewed because both parties require wealth transferred from the lower/middle class to the upper class because of their donors. They need to make up what a "left wing, nutjob" is to keep wealth transferring up through both parties.

Bernie Sanders/AOC are threats to what these parties are doing so they get labeled absurdly to discredit and ensure they don't get elected. For Democrat billionaire donors "opposing" four years of a GOP government is better than having Sanders/AOC in power.
I went back and read my 2016 posts, yes in America he is an American left wing nut who doesn't understand economics and just hates corporations.

I mean a national $15/hr minimum wage? Free Healthcare free education when almost half of Americans don't pay income tax? Tax the rich 80%?

Yeah in other places he's center left because most of what he's proposing is already in place. These places are already left or center left.

But America is so far right the Democrats are a nicer more caring corporate party.

Now 2016 Bernie might be different than 2025 Bernie and if you give AOC a full campaign and she can push moderate but progressive ideas, she could win. But as you said, she would have to go through many barriers than Trump did in 2016. Unfortunately, you can't create a cult on the progressive side, progressives arent dumb.
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What does CBP stand for? Canadian Border Patrol?

Sorry - American Customs & Border Protection in the Department of Homeland Security.
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I think AOC would be a great House leader, I'm not sure how well she'd do in presidential election, because she's a women, and not white. Knowing what we know of American voters, this seems like it would be a setup for losing.
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Unfortunately, you can't create a cult on the progressive side, progressives arent dumb.
No political spectrum has only smart people. There are plenty of zealots and dummies on both sides.
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