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Old 09-30-2025, 07:41 AM   #9481
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I'm with diss at this point, with the league showing interest previously in Pospisil and the emergence of some young guys on the Flames, I'm totally on board with packaging him up with Andersson for a better package back.
….sure?

I’m just not sure what ‘better package’ we might expect to get back. The other team is probably saying the exact same thing.

I suspect Posposil’s injury history will limit his trade value. Similarly,?Andersson’s value is tied to whether he’s a rental, or not. Assuming it is the former, I suspect the deal would be a mid-late first, another mid round pick, or a package of them, and Miromanov/Grubashev type.

Is that a ‘better package’? Maybe?
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:13 AM   #9482
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I remain convinced the best, maybe only, way for the Flames to land this player will be through the draft. The one exception I could foresee would be Necas as a UFA signing.
You are right, but that simply won’t happen unless Flames get a lucky pick (such as Zayne dropping to us). I just don’t see how this team drafts top five without winning the lottery or obtaining a pick from another team that does.

So your other point about the type of #1C we get is also correct. We don’t get Gretzky, but we need to find a Niewendyck. I’m not sure if McTavish or Rossi fit that description, but if our scouts believe they do and the players are available then we have to make the deal.

Now is the time to spend that 2026 1st, while lots of GMs expect Flames to be a bottom feeder it is worth a lot. It has the most value right now, if we believe in this team’s chances.

We are probably mid at worst, and with better offence (including from the new guy) we’d be playoff bound (window opens).
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:23 AM   #9483
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I don't think Pospisil returns something worthwhile enough to justify trading him. Plus, he just extended, so I would be very surprised if he moves this year - maybe next, but I would be surprised if he moves this year. This is how I see Pospisil's worth for the Flames:
  • Can play up and down the lineup, and all 3 forward positions
  • Adds both speed and physicality to the Flames
  • Helps with the hard-working culture (both in games AND in practice)
I personally think he has the ability to score more, and I generally like his decision making with the puck - underrated playmaker.

I don't see him returning much, but I do see him improving as he ages. He works hard in the off-season, plus things like working with Handzus to improve his F/O skills - he strikes me as a player who will work very hard to succeed, and I think guys like this are valuable to an organization filled with young players (as the Flames are looking like they will be).
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I'm not saying there's a deal out there for both, but going back to the deadline and summer there was plenty of interest in Marty, Flames again just had no interest at that time in trading him.

Injury's aside, he's got value for what he brings.
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To be blunt, Pospisil plays a style where he writes cheques his body can’t cash. Sorry, lame, but it’s true. He can’t / won’t / shouldn’t fight so one day he’s going to be the victim of a cheap shot or a really solid hit and he’s only got one concussion left in him IMO. Move on while you can.
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Reichel is not a need unless he’s a top 6 center.
Is that the Flames only need? Or should the Flames ignore other areas of the roster until they get that #1 center?
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Is that the Flames only need? Or should the Flames ignore other areas of the roster until they get that #1 center?
Well, do they need a bottom six winger?
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You are right, but that simply won’t happen unless Flames get a lucky pick (such as Zayne dropping to us). I just don’t see how this team drafts top five without winning the lottery or obtaining a pick from another team that does.

So your other point about the type of #1C we get is also correct. We don’t get Gretzky, but we need to find a Niewendyck. I’m not sure if McTavish or Rossi fit that description, but if our scouts believe they do and the players are available then we have to make the deal.

Now is the time to spend that 2026 1st, while lots of GMs expect Flames to be a bottom feeder it is worth a lot. It has the most value right now, if we believe in this team’s chances.

We are probably mid at worst, and with better offence (including from the new guy) we’d be playoff bound (window opens).
Agreed.

Luck is going to play a huge role. Whether it is a player falling in the draft or exceeding draft status through development (Point, Bergeron, etc) or winning the lottery in a year where there is a 1C available (2023 for example with Bedard, Fantili, Carlson), there is no clear or easy way.
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To be blunt, Pospisil plays a style where he writes cheques his body can’t cash. Sorry, lame, but it’s true. He can’t / won’t / shouldn’t fight so one day he’s going to be the victim of a cheap shot or a really solid hit and he’s only got one concussion left in him IMO. Move on while you can.
This has always been the big factor for me. His career could have an abrupt end, like Ferland.
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If there was an overpay available for Pospisil I’d listen, but he finds opportunities for his teammates every single game and drags everyone into the fight. Last year he was far more disciplined (way less dirty plays, less unnecessary penalties as the season went on) but also lost a bit of his edge and offensive touch. As previous posters have mentioned he’s an example of how hard work leads to success and I think helps any line he’s on. We haven’t had a chance to see him in the playoffs yet, but my guess is that he is a player that raises his game as the intensity ramps up and likely has more value around the league then his stats would suggest.
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This has always been the big factor for me. His career could have an abrupt end, like Ferland.
I agree and I don’t think this is lost on teams around the league.

He may have ‘value’ but I suspect that would come in the form of a mud-round pick.
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I know it is tough for Pospisil to show his game in preseason, but I haven't seen anything from him that would cement a spot on the roster. The next couple of games will be really interesting to see where he slots. 4th line C? Reunite Zary/Kadri/Pospisil? Just not sure.

I am much more willing to entertain trade ideas, given the depth of the Flames forwards right now.
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Is that the Flames only need? Or should the Flames ignore other areas of the roster until they get that #1 center?
The other need is a top 4 D, which Reichel isn't. He's a winger, which is our strongest position after goaltending.

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I know it is tough for Pospisil to show his game in preseason, but I haven't seen anything from him that would cement a spot on the roster. The next couple of games will be really interesting to see where he slots. 4th line C? Reunite Zary/Kadri/Pospisil? Just not sure.

I am much more willing to entertain trade ideas, given the depth of the Flames forwards right now.
We just extended him. I doubt he is going anywhere. I think the next player that would likely be moved is Coleman, but doubt that would happen until the TDL or the offseason, depending on where we are in the standings.
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The other need is a top 4 D, which Reichel isn't. He's a winger, which is our strongest position after goaltending.



We just extended him. I doubt he is going anywhere. I think the next player that would likely be moved is Coleman, but doubt that would happen until the TDL or the offseason, depending on where we are in the standings.
Sure, but what I am saying is that Pospisil might be a 13th forward at this point. He might get rotated in with Lombo if he doesn't up his game.
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I think Pospisil is getting underrated around here. Sure, he can make some boneheaded plays, but he brings that agitation that no one else has been able to bring since the departure of Tkachuk. He made Dunn go insane. That's a top pairing defenseman getting annoyed at our bottom 6 guy.

We have enough forward depth in the lineup that if he does start to make more bad plays than good, then he is going to get familiarity with the popcorn machine. And it has already been brought up that he can move up and down the lineup at ease, meaning he can join any lineup and can be effective (when he is on his 'A' game).
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To be blunt, Pospisil plays a style where he writes cheques his body can’t cash. Sorry, lame, but it’s true. He can’t / won’t / shouldn’t fight so one day he’s going to be the victim of a cheap shot or a really solid hit and he’s only got one concussion left in him IMO. Move on while you can.
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This has always been the big factor for me. His career could have an abrupt end, like Ferland.
Yup, this is correct. The clock is ticking for him.

Last night's game was a perfect example. Dunn wanted to murder him and I could not figure out why, until Mik mentioned their history on the broadcast. Looking back, I think there are a lot of guys out there that circle any games they will be playing Marty, for some payback.

He is an intriguing player, but as Diss has pointed out, he takes as many or more penalties as he draws.

Also, I think Huska's style is a tight defensive and disciplined game. Marty is a bit of a wildcard in that system - can't really play his game. Klapka fits much better IMO.

If packaging Marty with Ras gets us a potential #1C then we have to move him.
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I think Pospisil is getting underrated around here. Sure, he can make some boneheaded plays, but he brings that agitation that no one else has been able to bring since the departure of Tkachuk. He made Dunn go insane. That's a top pairing defenseman getting annoyed at our bottom 6 guy.

We have enough forward depth in the lineup that if he does start to make more bad plays than good, then he is going to get familiarity with the popcorn machine. And it has already been brought up that he can move up and down the lineup at ease, meaning he can join any lineup and can be effective (when he is on his 'A' game).
Marty inflicted a potential career ending hit on Dunn last year, and injured him again last night with a dirty play.

Marty is playing a very high stakes game, even if he was 100% but we all know he is far from that with his concussion history. Someone will get him clean and will mush up that squishy skull of his. He keeps inviting the attention.
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Marty inflicted a potential career ending hit on Dunn last year, and injured him again last night with a dirty play.

Marty is playing a very high stakes game, even if he was 100% but we all know he is far from that with his concussion history. Someone will get him clean and will mush up that squishy skull of his. He keeps inviting the attention.
Well, then it is up to one of the 31 teams to overpay for him. Chances are what we see is what they see too. I doubt he can be included in a package and grab a 1C. He doesn't have that kind of value, nor does Andersson when he's a UFA on July 1st.
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Well, then it is up to one of the 31 teams to overpay for him. Chances are what we see is what they see too. I doubt he can be included in a package and grab a 1C. He doesn't have that kind of value, nor does Andersson when he's a UFA on July 1st.
Totally agree! Yet that is the task facing CC. He and his team have to figure it out and outsmart one of the other GMs.

It happens one or twice every year. We just hardly ever seem to be the beneficiaries. Maybe the last time was Elias and Noah coming here? Hamilton is better than Ras, Marty is better than Ferkland, and Fox was a mystery box.

Elias was a pretty good #1C when paired with an elite winger. We have an elite winger (Huby) and maybe a couple more on the way up (Matty, Xary, Gridin).
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Totally agree! Yet that is the task facing CC. He and his team have to figure it out and outsmart one of the other GMs.

It happens one or twice every year. We just hardly ever seem to be the beneficiaries. Maybe the last time was Elias and Noah coming here? Hamilton is better than Ras, Marty is better than Ferkland, and Fox was a mystery box.

Elias was a pretty good #1C when paired with an elite winger. We have an elite winger (Huby) and maybe a couple more on the way up (Matty, Xary, Gridin).
Hubby is an elite winger?

You have a very low definition of elite.
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