2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flash Walken]

the most fascinating aspect of trying to acquire Mark Stone is what then happens to Michael Stone?

Is it mathematically possible to keep the core group intact and re-sign Mark Stone with Michael Stone on the roster? I don't think it is.

So are you in essence saying, 'come to calgary and win the cup with your brother this year, after which we will either be buying him out or trading him to anyone that can take him in order to pay you the money you want.'?

Do you acquire Mark Stone simply in order to win this year, with no intentions of re-signing him in the offseason?

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

the most fascinating aspect of trying to acquire Mark Stone is what then happens to Michael Stone?

Is it mathematically possible to keep the core group intact and re-sign Mark Stone with Michael Stone on the roster? I don't think it is.

So are you in essence saying, 'come to calgary and win the cup with your brother this year, after which we will either be buying him out or trading him to anyone that can take him in order to pay you the money you want.'?

Do you acquire Mark Stone simply in order to win this year, with no intentions of re-signing him in the offseason?

Trade him to Edmonton so they can be close?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

but would BT be willing to pay the price? would fans be happy with that price?

Wilson is suggesting Jankowski, Czarnik, 2019 first-round pick, 2020 second-round pick and Kylington for Stone, using the Karlsson deal as a template

not to mention a number of deals after the season in order to free up the cash to resign Stone...

No way he costs that much rentals never cost that much and rarely this late in the game do we see deals where players are traded and sign with their new team immediately.

I think if the Flames acquire Stone and are able to re-sign him it will be similar to Mike Stone where he was signed before free agency. I could see a C.K. sotional picn being thrown in but no way Janko, Kylington, 1st, 2nd that is overpay by at least 1 asset.

[Phagoof]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

the most fascinating aspect of trying to acquire Mark Stone is what then happens to Michael Stone?

Is it mathematically possible to keep the core group intact and re-sign Mark Stone with Michael Stone on the roster? I don't think it is.

So are you in essence saying, 'come to calgary and win the cup with your brother this year, after which we will either be buying him out or trading him to anyone that can take him in order to pay you the money you want.'?

Do you acquire Mark Stone simply in order to win this year, with no intentions of re-signing him in the offseason?

if frolik in the deal, and then brodie is traded in the off season to recoup picks/prospects it is.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
TKachuk-Backlund-Stone
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Mangiapane-Ryan-Hathaway

Gio-Andersson
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Stone

I'd say move Neal but It's really unlikely it's possible. I'm starting to really like our third line, they have been great of late. Also I'd say Neal has been good of late. Much better then Frolik who has has been an offensive black hole.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Phagoof

if frolik in the deal, and then neal is moved in the offseason or bought out it is.

Neal buyout haunts this team for 8 years. No chance that happens.

[Flash Walken]

There is 0% chance Neal is bought out.

Is there a number smaller than 0? That's the likelihood of a Neal buyout.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

the most fascinating aspect of trying to acquire Mark Stone is what then happens to Michael Stone?

Is it mathematically possible to keep the core group intact and re-sign Mark Stone with Michael Stone on the roster? I don't think it is.

So are you in essence saying, 'come to calgary and win the cup with your brother this year, after which we will either be buying him out or trading him to anyone that can take him in order to pay you the money you want.'?

Do you acquire Mark Stone simply in order to win this year, with no intentions of re-signing him in the offseason?

Frolik would by a must go.

Brodie or Hamonic are dealt for picks

Neal likely unmovable so then you look at other high priced non core players and names like Ryan get shipped and the 4th line C makes $1.1M instead of 3.1

[Flash Walken]

Mark Stone is a 8-9 million dollar player this summer.

Can the Flames actually sign that kind of contract without moving out neal+mike stone?

How can they do that? Who is going to take either one of those guys?

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Neal buyout haunts this team for 8 years. No chance that happens.

At risk of sounding like a broken record I really believe Neal is gonna breakout here soon. His play lately suggests same. I don’t expect him to be putting 30 away every year for the remainder of his contract but if he can do 20/20 and a good character in the room he’ll be worth it.

[sureLoss]

TSN has put Huberdeau on its trade bait board.

https://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/video...rovsky~1608522

Speculating that he might be involved in a potential deal for Panarin and Bobrovsky

[Ozy_Flame]

If so, that is a huge, huge deal.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Mark Stone is a 8-9 million dollar player this summer.

Can the Flames actually sign that kind of contract without moving out neal+mike stone?

How can they do that? Who is going to take either one of those guys?

Flames need to avoid paying a winger 8-9M outside of Tkachuk or 3 years Gaudreau.

Stone would need to sign for less or move on and if he is moving on I wouldn’t want him on the Flames to begin with.

[Bleeding Red]

IIRC someone mentioned trying to send Mike Stone to OTT for dzingel. Maybe up the package to include a pick or b prospect for Nillson.

May give Mark some incentive to resign there and not be traded anywhere.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames need to avoid paying a winger 8-9M outside of Tkachuk or 3 years Gaudreau.

Stone would need to sign for less or move on and if he is moving on I wouldn’t want him on the Flames to begin with.

I dunno, I think the fact that Gaudreau, Lindholm, Monahan and Backlund are signed to fair or below market deals allows the team to splurge on a guy like Stone as well as pay Tkachuk his money. Gotta go for it in this window.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Mark Stone is a 8-9 million dollar player this summer.

Can the Flames actually sign that kind of contract without moving out neal+mike stone?

How can they do that? Who is going to take either one of those guys?

A lot of people seem to think that Frolik (4.3) and Brodie (4.65) won't be here past draft day.

I find that hard to believe myself, but that's almost 9 million (as an example of players that could move with positive value). Not counting the obvious 4.25 from Mike Smith. Plus the Bouma and Murphy buyouts (almost 1 mil).

[Strange Brew]

I could see Brodie moved in the off season, allowing one of the young D to move up and move Hanifin to top pair. In that scenario, Michael Stone is a little more valuable next year. I see both him and Frolik on the roster next year. Interesting that Flames haven't had expiring contracts in a while.

The unknown is goaltending next year. Who's it going to be and how expensive will it be.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I could see Brodie moved in the off season, allowing one of the young D to move up and move Hanifin to top pair. In that scenario, Michael Stone is a little more valuable next year. I see both him and Frolik on the roster next year. Interesting that Flames haven't had expiring contracts in a while.

The unknown is goaltending next year. Who's it going to be and how expensive will it be.

Maybe the tweets from Froliks agent have blown over but I just don’t see how he’s here next year. For one, we need the cap space and two, Frolik will want to be put in a top 6 role to inflate his value for his last (likely) contract.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I could see Brodie moved in the off season, allowing one of the young D to move up and move Hanifin to top pair. In that scenario, Michael Stone is a little more valuable next year. I see both him and Frolik on the roster next year. Interesting that Flames haven't had expiring contracts in a while.

The unknown is goaltending next year. Who's it going to be and how expensive will it be.

Very doubtful they move him to his off side.

I think you leave the 2nd unit alone, move Andersson to play beside Gio and allow Valimaki and Stone/replacement to man the 3rd unit.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

TSN has put Huberdeau on its trade bait board.

https://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/video...rovsky~1608522

Speculating that he might be involved in a potential deal for Panarin and Bobrovsky

I think the Panthers are trying way too hard to get Panarin and Bobrovsky if they are going to trade their best winger with a great contract for them.

That would be a huge win for Columbus.

[Beninho]

I just don’t see Treliving over paying for Stone, I still like the idea of bringing in Zuccarello for probably half the price.


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