2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Great Save Tanev]

#insiderrrr just saw Sutter in LAX with wife and son, decked out in Kings gear.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Great Save Tanev

#insiderrrr just saw Sutter in LAX with wife and son, decked out in Kings gear.

I would imagine Chris, as well as Darryl and Wanda, still have a lot of friends and great memories from their time in SoCal.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I would imagine Chris, as well as Darryl and Wanda, still have a lot of friends and great memories from their time in SoCal.

They could also still be involved in local charitable events and things like that.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The argument is that players who are valuable as mentors tend to be re-signed by the teams that already have them. Players who can't get a steady gig and will sign anywhere for a single year tend not to be good mentors. Is any of this getting through to you?



Gee, I dunno. Maybe you could ask Zary and Pospisil, who turned into full-time NHLers playing on his line.

I understand what you are trying to say, I just don’t accept it. Can you not understand that?

players who are good in the locker room ( as their best trait) generally cannot catch on with good teams, because they aren’t that great and good teams generally don't require those type of players. Nor can they afford them.

Would a good team sign a Foligno for $4M per season? And he’s a great mentor.

If Gio signs with Calgary, he’ll be exhibit A.

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by Great Save Tanev

#insiderrrr just saw Sutter in LAX with wife and son, decked out in Kings gear.

10 year anniversary of their 2014 cup win. Likely a commemorative event

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I understand what you are trying to say, I just don’t accept it. Can you not understand that?

players who are good in the locker room ( as their best trait) generally cannot catch on with good teams, because they aren’t that great and good teams generally don't require those type of players. Nor can they afford them.

Who said anything about signing a guy whose best trait is that he's good in the locker room?

Kadri and Backlund have a history of making their wingers play better, and in Backlund's case, those wingers have a history of retaining the lessons they learn and being better for it all through their careers. (Kadri seems to have some of the same ability, based on the fact that both Zary and Pospisil improved markedly once they were put on his line and stayed at their new level when moved to other lines. It remains to be seen if Kadri can repeat that with other young players.)

That's mentorship. ‘Being good in the locker room’ isn't.

Players who can do that do not grow on trees, and they aren't twiddling their thumbs every summer looking for one-year deals. When you have such players, you don't just get rid of them because they are veterans, and you don't replace them with any old vet who will sign a one-year deal.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Kadri and Backlund have a history of making their wingers play better, and in Backlund's case, those wingers have a history of retaining the lessons they learn and being better for it all through their careers.

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

I'd love to see that.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

That's precisely why Mang was moved IMO. They needed to make room for Pelts.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

Or Coronato. Similar game to Mangiapane with a faster release.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

I agree!

And with Zary seemingly ticketed for a permanent move to centre, there will be a spot for another young player on Kadri's wing.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

He definitely had a slow start, but him going at almost a PPG pace for the last 70 games of the season was due to his play, and him creating offense. Kuzmenko did much better on the Kadri line as well. In fact, it seemed as though Huska used the Kadri line to kick-start players offensively.

He got energized by Zary and was terrible before that. All I can remember. Cheers.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Saqe

He got energized by Zary and was terrible before that. All I can remember. Cheers.

A lot of fans had written Zary off as a bust, or at best a fourth-line plug, until he was put on Kadri's wing. Zary himself gave props to Kadri for helping him improve his game.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Saqe

He got energized by Zary and was terrible before that. All I can remember. Cheers.

I don't deny that, he definitely started playing a lot better after Zary was called up. He was snake bitten, and wasn't playing well for the first 10 or so games of the season. That said, once he had his confidence back, it was like night and day.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zary and Pospisil helped Kadri get the monkey of his back, but his success this season is a result of his work, and him embracing his role.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I don't deny that, he definitely started playing a lot better after Zary was called up. He was snake bitten, and wasn't playing well for the first 10 or so games of the season. That said, once he had his confidence back, it was like night and day.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zary and Pospisil helped Kadri get the monkey of his back, but his success this season is a result of his work, and him embracing his role.

To me it’s bit of a fool’s errand to try to figure out who benefited more. Did Kadri help the kids out or did the kids help Kadri out? The most likely scenario is both, I’d say.

Also worth mentioning that prior to Kadri playing with the kids, while he was in his early season slump, that he said he felt he was playing well.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

It makes too much sense to put Pelletier in Mangiapane's spot with Backlund and Coleman this year.

It does but which winger does he replace in the top 9? Pospisil?

Arguably Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, Huberdeau, Coleman, Mantha, Pospisil, and Coronato deserve a chance in the top 9 before Pelletier.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It does but which winger does he replace in the top 9? Pospisil?

Arguably Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, Huberdeau, Coleman, Mantha, Pospisil, and Coronato deserve a chance in the top 9 before Pelletier.

Do fans think that Pelletier makes sense there because he is actually good defensively or because he has not shown any offensive ability at the NHL level and it is a safe place to put him?

[shutout]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/calgar...lberta-forward

Yamamoto is an inexpensive gamble. If he doesn't pay off, the Flames aren't out anything more than around $1 million on their salary cap. If he does, not only could the winger provide a bit more grit and scoring punch to the Flames forward group, but he becomes a piece GM Craig Conroy can dangle when the Flames inevitably start selling at the deadline.

One of those players that is a late addition before training camp or a potential PTO? Competition for Pelletier and Coronato to have a good camp.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Do fans think that Pelletier makes sense there because he is actually good defensively or because he has not shown any offensive ability at the NHL level and it is a safe place to put him?

He is a smart and energetic defensive player, who is usually in a good checking position.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It does but which winger does he replace in the top 9? Pospisil?

Arguably Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, Huberdeau, Coleman, Mantha, Pospisil, and Coronato deserve a chance in the top 9 before Pelletier.

Big year for Pelletier.

I’m a bit skeptical, personally. 5’7” 170lbs wingers typically don’t fit on a third line. Players who are at this stature typically have elite offense/IQ that pushes them into the top of the lineup. For Pelletier to be an effective bottom 6 winger, he ideally needs at least 5” and 30lbs more. At least.

If I’m placing a bet, it’s that Honzek and/or Stromgren will have passed Pelletier by the end of the season.