The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by photon

And it depends on the context but speech is controlled all over the place either implicitly or explicitly. If I'm on a Calgary Flames website my speech about the Flames or Oilers probably will be controlled. If I go to social functions with friends and family speech is controlled by social pressures. Be the racist uncle, don't get invited back. Lots of things that if said would get one un-invited to church, or the bar, or museum, etc.

It's been long understood that I don't have a right to unlimited free speech on private property when it comes to the wall of your house or a radio station or a newspaper, there's no reason to think it would change on social media.

Ya, like, I can't even say #### #### #### dick ##### mother####er on here without it all being turned into pound signs.

[Fuzz]

Oh hey, I can say dick. Neat.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

#### piss #### #### ########## mother####er tits.

[Looch City]

First it’s swear words and then basically China. Who truly owns CP’s servers, has anyone ever asked??

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589784134691741696

[rubecube]

Lol good luck with that.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589796702843998208

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

That's actually good. Then the people who want to pay for it can use it amongst themselves and I never have to hear about it.

... I wish.

[rubecube]

So what are people looking into as alternatives to twitter? I signed up for counter.social and like it so far. Just needs more users.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So what are people looking into as alternatives to twitter?

I already have one, it’s called CP.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589784134691741696

Man, someone must have enabled all those massive number of bots that he says existed.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So what are people looking into as alternatives to twitter? I signed up for counter.social and like it so far. Just needs more users.

I just don't see many people permanently moving away from Twitter to another similar app. People want to follow the largest audience and the most creators/publishers they care about. A whole bunch of similar alternatives will try to bleed off users from Twitter during this turmoil, but they're all also competing against each other in addition to competing against Twitter, so none of them are likely to replace what Twitter offers as the town square. No creator wants to have to duplicate posts and build followings on several very similar new platforms to reach their audience, and no users want to use several similar apps just to follow the people they like. The result is that the incumbent platform has a huge advantage. Those that still want what Twitter offers will mostly go back in time when they find the alternatives can't really compete on audience and on content.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

#### piss #### #### ########## mother####er tits.

bollox faced wank stained lite weight twats the lot of you

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I just don't see many people permanently moving away from Twitter to another similar app. People want to follow the largest audience and the most creators/publishers they care about. A whole bunch of similar alternatives will try to bleed off users from Twitter during this turmoil, but they're all also competing against each other in addition to competing against Twitter, so none of them are likely to replace what Twitter offers as the town square. No creator wants to have to duplicate posts and build followings on several very similar new platforms to reach their audience, and no users want to use several similar apps just to follow the people they like. The result is that the incumbent platform has a huge advantage. Those that still want what Twitter offers will mostly go back in time when they find the alternatives can't really compete on audience and on content.

Meh. All it takes is one or two prominent figures to move their account to one of the other sites. Especially if Musk tries to force people to pay for Twitter.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589784134691741696

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587877843777773570

[Ozy_Flame]

Teslas
Rocketships
Twitter

Everything Elon makes explodes

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by pylon

So in conclusion, if you exercise your right to free speech, just be prepared to pay for the consequences if your words cause true harm. Not hurt feelings, harm.

And to everyone's relief, myself included, that's all I have to say.

I don't understand your take on this.
so If you constantly use your words to hurt my feelings, your verbal abuse ruins my mental health, that's ok to you?

things that affect my mental health do cause me harm, including physical symptoms. You're really making light of verbal abuse and the affects of it on your health, by calling it simply "hurt feelings"

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Meh. All it takes is one or two prominent figures to move their account to one of the other sites. Especially if Musk tries to force people to pay for Twitter.

If he continues to push into everyone paying - it will die or at least lose a ton of users.

If it becomes even more a cesspool - people will just leave.

But for me at least - its the same old site it is was before he bought it so no reason to leave.

You do have to question the health of a site where you:

• Don't want to click on any tweets and read the replies
• Don't want to click on 75% of the trending topics because it will be full of dopes
• For a lot of people, including me, just don't want to tweet because you don't want to get trolls fighting in your replies and getting notifications until you mute them

But it was that way before Musk as well. And to be fair, pretty much any site with comments is the same.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I don't understand your take on this.
so If you constantly use your words to hurt my feelings, your verbal abuse ruins my mental health, that's ok to you?

things that affect my mental health do cause me harm, including physical symptoms. You're really making light of verbal abuse and the affects of it on your health, by calling it simply "hurt feelings"

It’s simple really: If your feeling are hurt, you’re just being a snowflake. Man up.

[PepsiFree]

Much like pylon’s outlook on… life in general, I guess… Musk’s view of Twitter seems out of touch with reality in a way where he understands the general idea of something or that it might exist but has no idea why it exists or what benefits and drawbacks it has. Monetizing Twitter is a good way to make people leave, and as high as he says his user counts are, that’s not what matters to advertisers when we’re talking brand safety and ad effectiveness.

As far as what people are switching to, for me, nothing. Maybe Bluesky once it’s released. But much like any technological shift it’s unlikely that whatever people choose now is going to takeoff. Too many faults in too many of the options. Stuff like Mastodon absolutely sucks.

[Roughneck]

I just need some clarification on something:

Kanye wasn’t cancelled because he deserved it, so it’s not cancel culture when he got cancelled. Jordan Peterson wasn’t actually cancelled, but he effectively was, and that’s why cancel culture is bad…do I have that right?