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Old 11-03-2020, 08:57 PM   #921
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Just trying to catch up on everything now. Clearly this is not going according to plan. What states are we relying on at this point?
Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Arizona. Biden needs PA + Michigan + one of the other three, or Pennsylvania + all of the other three.

EDIT: Or all four except Pennsylvania, but that's highly unlikely.
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:57 PM   #922
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Okay cool. So into witness protection for Nate Silver, it is.
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Aren't the mail ins counted first?

No, I believe it varies by state.
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:58 PM   #924
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Definitely one of the takeaways from tonight for me.........of course you need to raise funds and have a bunch of cash on hand, but next time I hear someone has a 2-1 or 3-1 cash advantage over their opponent........who cares?
That isn't even the biggest takeaway for me.

My issue is how much power Facebook has over our elections.

Social media in general actually.

Considering how much money is at play, obviously their policies are going to be geared towards getting the candidates to spend more and more and more.

And as a result we become more and more outraged. And the candidates spend more and more. Viscous cycle.
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Lindsey Graham wins handily after being a world class hypocrite.



America, ladies and gentlemen.
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Aren't the mail ins counted first?
It seems to depend on state.
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There is no way Trump wins Pennsylvania.
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I'm puzzled by popular vote, with Trump leading by 2.5 million (3 points). I guess the west, Cali mostly, swings that to Biden, but probably not decisively?
I think California swings it easily. New York is only 50% counted right now as well.

When all is said and done, I expect Biden to win the popular vote by at least 3 million, but Trump will still get more total votes than he did in 2016 due to the higher turnout.
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Yup, this is correct. Each state gets a vote in Congress, not each district. So a Republican will just about always win a tied EC vote.

On another note, I think we can pretty safely call that it's going to be a GOP Senate. So no sweep.
I agree on the GOP Senate.

It is imperative that Biden wins then. With Trump gone, the GOP might remember who they were before he came around and start working with the Dems again.
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From 90% yesterday to “likely”
Ok
Next page.
Biden hasn't lost anything I expected him to win...there were a few toss ups I hoped for that would have ended it earlier. Florida is the only realistic one that Biden lost.

All along I have thought the rust belt would seal it for Biden and I feel the same. Save the "I tolda so's"

If I am wrong so be it, won't be the first time and I will eat crow
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Every time I change to a Canadian channel they are still talking about mail in ballots. Doesn’t seem to be talked about too much on the American channels.
I wonder if that's a bit of urgency for the media ratings (US). If you tell people this likely isn't going to be decided tonight people will tune out until tomorrow.

Honey Canada don't give a ####.
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There is no way Trump wins Pennsylvania.
Why are we thinking this right now given the Trump lead? Presumably the counties we're waiting for? It's hard to figure things out on my phone.
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Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Arizona. Biden needs PA + Michigan + one of the other three, or Pennsylvania + all of the other three.

EDIT: Or all four except Pennsylvania, but that's highly unlikely.
Trump leading in all but AZ
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Idaho is too close to call on CNN........maybe it is right now, but let's face it, that state has way too many white supremacists to go blue.
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There is no way Trump wins Pennsylvania.
Ohio would say otherwise.

Georgia still not out of the question for Biden.
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There is no way Trump wins Pennsylvania.
Trump is ahead in Mahoning County. I can't see it swinging back to Biden if that holds.

In 2016 he lost it by 3 points.

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Bit more reference. Obama won Mahoning by 27 points, Clinton by 3 points. Trump is now 2% ahead with 98% reporting. Huge swings.

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Arizona will keep getting closer and closer.
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Just keeping an eye on North Carolina; Trump had increased his lead up to over 100,000, but it's now back down to under 70,000. Democratic counties still being heard from there, even though the margin in those counties is less in the election-day vote than in mail in ballots.

I'm seriously still holding out faint hope.
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Trump leading in all but AZ
No, this is silly. This is like saying Biden was leading in Florida when it was absolutely clear that that lead would likely vanish. None of these states will be ultimately decided tonight besides possibly Arizona, and I'm pretty skeptical about that.
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Trump leading in all but AZ
Look were the votes are coming from

not much of the early vote, mail vote, or urban areas are reporting
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Yeah, out of all the states Biden needs to win, he is only leading in Arizona.

Last year at this time it was widely swinging back to Trump. Things are just holding at this point.
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