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Old 05-25-2016, 02:31 PM   #921
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There has been one tree in Westeros, and Rob Stark tried to chop it down with his sword.


It's gonna take a long time to get enough wood for 1000 ships, he's getting nowhere on this tree.
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There has been one tree in Westeros, and Rob Stark tried to chop it down with his sword.
Also weirwoods; the Children of the forest created the white walkers because people chopped those down.
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I'm amazed at how nitpicky everyone is with this show. A priestess gave birth to a smoke demon who travelled through solid matter to shive someone but you're getting caught up in the logging practices of a fictitous island they've shown you 2% of.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:14 PM   #924
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I'm amazed at how nitpicky everyone is with this show. A priestess gave birth to a smoke demon who travelled through solid matter to shive someone but you're getting caught up in the logging practices of a fictitous island they've shown you 2% of.
Look man, logging is an important factor ok?
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lol are we seriously complaining about the number of trees on screen? Or how many soldiers we see on screen?

Or the fact that Euron convinced SOME of the iron borne to side with him? It looked like Theon and Yara made off with over half the forces and most of the ships, which seems realistic to me. He caused a rift that divided people's allegiances... what is so unrealistic about that?

GoT is such a great show, one of the best ever, but people have to find the most ridiculous stuff to complain about.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:55 PM   #926
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I'm amazed at how nitpicky everyone is with this show. A priestess gave birth to a smoke demon who travelled through solid matter to shive someone but you're getting caught up in the logging practices of a fictitous island they've shown you 2% of.
with the magic stuff, there's no rules. if Euron said that he learned in the far east how to conjure up 1000 ships by sacrificing a mermaid to the drowned god, then nobody asks any questions.

but the non-magic part of the GRRM-verse is rooted in realistic, history-based economics, manpower, politics. we've heard them talk about things like how many soldiers they have, how much gold there is in the mines, what alliance will benefit a certain house, etc. that's why people get nitpicky, the story still has to play according to the rules as they are laid out, even if there is crazy dungeons and dragons stuff in that same world.

all that being said, Euron is clearly insane and we haven't seen whether he actually has the ability to make those ships or he's just really good at convincing his people that they can. we'll see in time whether it ends up being something acceptable or ridiculous soon enough.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:08 PM   #927
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Euron knows people, the best people. He's going to build the best ships. And the Lannisters will pay for it.
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lol are we seriously complaining about the number of trees on screen? Or how many soldiers we see on screen?

Or the fact that Euron convinced SOME of the iron borne to side with him? It looked like Theon and Yara made off with over half the forces and most of the ships, which seems realistic to me. He caused a rift that divided people's allegiances... what is so unrealistic about that?

GoT is such a great show, one of the best ever, but people have to find the most ridiculous stuff to complain about.
There are so many unanswered question though: what kind of saws do they have? What kind of experience do the tradesmen working on the trees have? What kind of displacement will the hulls of these boats have and will that displacement be appropriate given the on screen portrayal of the weather and ocean conditions?

I don't think you get this show.
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And the pitching of the hulls. What do the Iron Born use? Is there an oil sands like deposit on the islands?

This show is getting totally unrealistic
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And the pitching of the hulls. What do the Iron Born use? Is there an oil sands like deposit on the islands?

This show is getting totally unrealistic
Oh man, don't mention Oil Sands in this thread. The west-coast, latte-swilling climate changers will have get their feathers ruffled.
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Plus oil sands sounds too much like Sand Snakes and we all know how sucky they are!
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Oil sands + Sand Snakes = Snake Oil?

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is westeros capable of producing oil or should they be more appropriately labeled as tar sands?
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I bet Leonardo Sand would come up from his fancy house in Dorne just to #### all over them too.
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with the magic stuff, there's no rules. if Euron said that he learned in the far east how to conjure up 1000 ships by sacrificing a mermaid to the drowned god, then nobody asks any questions.

but the non-magic part of the GRRM-verse is rooted in realistic, history-based economics, manpower, politics. we've heard them talk about things like how many soldiers they have, how much gold there is in the mines, what alliance will benefit a certain house, etc. that's why people get nitpicky, the story still has to play according to the rules as they are laid out, even if there is crazy dungeons and dragons stuff in that same world.

all that being said, Euron is clearly insane and we haven't seen whether he actually has the ability to make those ships or he's just really good at convincing his people that they can. we'll see in time whether it ends up being something acceptable or ridiculous soon enough.

You want to know this stuff? Read the massively long thicker then it needs to be adventure called "A Song of Ice and Fire". This much detail would make a boring TV show, and just adding "1 line" can be tough for them to fit in right.

You want to enjoy a deep TV show with minor plot holes due to time and budget constraints - Watch GoT on HBO.
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I certainly understand that but it took one scene and one mention of 100,000 riders to help viewers understand how big the dothraki are. Because I certainly didn't know they had those kinds of numbers till it was mentioned.
There's a historical analogue for each of the great tribes in the show. The dothraki are the mongols, Iron Born are Vikings, Starks are the British, Dornish are the Moors, Bravoosi are the Flemish, the houses of main land Westeros are the different continental houses, Bourbons, Burgundians, Hapsburgs, Papal States.

Slavers Bay is the "orient".

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There's a historical analogue for each of the great tribes in the show. The dothraki are the mongols, Iron Born are Vikings, Starks are the British, Dornish are the Moors, Bravoosi are the Flemish, the houses of main land Westeros are the different continental houses, Bourbons, Burgundians, Hapsburgs, Papal States.

Slavers Bay is the "orient".
I believe the Starks would be the Celts.

First men = Celts, Andals = Saxons
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There's a historical analogue for each of the great tribes in the show. The dothraki are the mongols, Iron Born are Vikings, Starks are the British, Dornish are the Moors, Bravoosi are the Flemish, the houses of main land Westeros are the different continental houses, Bourbons, Burgundians, Hapsburgs, Papal States.

Slavers Bay is the "orient".
Beyond Castle Black is Edmonton.

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That would make Tyrion Irish, right?
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