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01-13-2021, 08:17 PM
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There were early discussions while he was Cheeto-elect about violating foreign emoluments rules which was related or tied to Russian interference. I will back down and say in a 2 minute search I can’t find a specific article or comment from a Democrat that exactly matches what the Retrumplican congresslady says. I would submit, if it’s being discussed by the media or others, it’s also likely something discussed by the Dems.
There was also an impeach Trump PAC started in early 2017 and a look to impeach based on I believe ignoring judge orders over immigration.
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01-13-2021, 08:30 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Rudy can't testify against Trump can he?
Client/attorney privilege and all that.
Or was Rudy not an acting atty. for him?
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01-13-2021, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FurnaceFace
There were early discussions while he was Cheeto-elect about violating foreign emoluments rules which was related or tied to Russian interference. I will back down and say in a 2 minute search I can’t find a specific article or comment from a Democrat that exactly matches what the Retrumplican congresslady says. I would submit, if it’s being discussed by the media or others, it’s also likely something discussed by the Dems.
There was also an impeach Trump PAC started in early 2017 and a look to impeach based on I believe ignoring judge orders over immigration.
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Trump did a lot of noise early on. It was warranted. Bannon, Kushner security clearances, Flynn getting a special title so he wouldn't need security clearance, Sally Yates, Bhahara, Muslim ban mess, emoluments, fake divesting and on and on. It's shocking that he wasn't impeached first year. That shows restraint. And if course the Reps held the house so any impeachment talk was just noise.
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01-13-2021, 08:37 PM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Rudy can't testify against Trump can he?
Client/attorney privilege and all that.
Or was Rudy not an acting atty. for him?
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Why, is that like ‘illegal’ or something?
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01-13-2021, 08:41 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Did Rudy ever visit Epstein's island?
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Nah. Not unless Epstein recruited some of Rudy’s cousins.
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01-13-2021, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It may also make him turn.
I imagine Rudy knows a lot of dirt. A lot of it is probably on him, but he could ask for immunity to testify against Trump.
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It will just be another same story. They were both too incompetent to actually break any significant laws. Trump wanted him to break some, and he tried, but didn't get very far.
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01-13-2021, 08:44 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Why, is that like ‘illegal’ or something?
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Attorneys are not allowed to testify against their own clients.
Though i am sure their are exceptions.
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01-13-2021, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Attorneys are not allowed to testify against their own clients.
Though i am sure their are exceptions.
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Is he your client if he stiffs you?
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01-13-2021, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Rudy can't testify against Trump can he?
Client/attorney privilege and all that.
Or was Rudy not an acting atty. for him?
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I’m sure that I should know the answer to this, and probably did at one point decades ago, but.....
If you get disbarred, does the privilege still exist? Or, at the very least, does it still exist, but only to the extent that it pertains to that period of time when you still were a licensed attorney for the, um, defendant?
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01-13-2021, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Not even close to an expert, but I can' t see it happening if you were disbarred, unless you were disbarred when the conversations took place.
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01-13-2021, 09:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Rudy can't testify against Trump can he?
Client/attorney privilege and all that.
Or was Rudy not an acting atty. for him?
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That would explain why he had his personal attorney handling matters of state.
I was thinking along the lines what Fuzz was saying. If Trump breaches the agreement or contract by only paying up until a certain point, would anything learned after that be fair game?
I don't know a lot about this sort of thing, but it sounds like if certain boundaries are broken, a lawyer can be compelled to testify against a former client:
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-...-client-2018-4
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01-13-2021, 09:28 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
I’m sure that I should know the answer to this, and probably did at one point decades ago, but.....
If you get disbarred, does the privilege still exist? Or, at the very least, does it still exist, but only to the extent that it pertains to that period of time when you still were a licensed attorney for the, um, defendant?
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For ever as far as i know...just because a guy gets disbarred doesnt take away that he was an attorney at the time he was told information from the client. Hard for a lawyer to give a client proper advice without knowing all the facts.
My guess is that one exception would be if the client tells his lawyer something he is going to do that would constitute breaking a law....then the lawyer could break privilege.
Or ive watched to many cop and lawyer shows.
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01-13-2021, 09:43 PM
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Because Trump is a con man and is always trying to game the system for his benefit, several thoughts come to mind...
1. Let's say Trump resigns tomorrow. Can he still be impeached through a Senate trial retroactively? Does that even matter? Does a resignation mean he can't be impeached?
2. Trump resigns tomorrow. Pence takes over and pardons Trump. Could the pardon include his two impeachments to wipe them out?
3. Trump sticks around and pardons a bunch of people including himself. Could he wipe out his impeachments with his pardons?
4. Can the Senate Impeachment trial be effective from the date of the House vote as opposed to when the Senate actually voted? If so, could they negate anything he does including Trump pardoning himself?
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01-13-2021, 09:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob-loblaw
Because Trump is a con man and is always trying to game the system for his benefit, several thoughts come to mind...
1. Let's say Trump resigns tomorrow. Can he still be impeached through a Senate trial retroactively? Does that even matter? Does a resignation mean he can't be impeached?
2. Trump resigns tomorrow. Pence takes over and pardons Trump. Could the pardon include his two impeachments to wipe them out?
3. Trump sticks around and pardons a bunch of people including himself. Could he wipe out his impeachments with his pardons?
4. Can the Senate Impeachment trial be effective from the date of the House vote as opposed to when the Senate actually voted? If so, could they negate anything he does including Trump pardoning himself?
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In 2019, Matt Gaetz wanted to impeach Obama.
It sounds like it is uncertain whether or not this can be done:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-be-impeached/
The above article asks the exact same question about whether a politician could dodge the repercussions of an impeachment if they resign.
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01-13-2021, 10:37 PM
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They said Trump has privately expressed concern with some of Giuliani’s moves and did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees for his work attempting to overturn the election.
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01-13-2021, 10:52 PM
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01-13-2021, 10:54 PM
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You are a Mod, correct?
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Sorry if I missed it, but I didn't see a response after I answered you. We're you just asking questions or...?
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01-13-2021, 10:54 PM
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a bit OT but Trump had $500M in real estate in 1987...he could have liquidated, invested in the SP500, and done absolutely nothing and would have 13B. He claims to have 4 but that seems unlikely.
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01-13-2021, 10:57 PM
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I could be wrong, but I believe if the attorney participated in, or had prior knowledge of the crime, he is a co-conspirator / accessory, and attorney client privilege is meaningless, because you can't legally represent someone in an illegal capacity.
So the solution is to charge Rudy with same thing you decide to go after Trump for, then plead him out.
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01-14-2021, 12:09 AM
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