Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

How about some cash for Cavalry FC? I'm sure the Southerns could use the help.

They could help build the zip line from downtown to the stadium.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

https://twitter.com/abdaniellesmith/...193742848?s=12

Nice to see Danielle committing to throwing some cash the Oilers way to even it out.

What a cluster of a Pandora's box she has opened.

And I hope that thing bites her head off.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

They could help build the zip line from downtown to the stadium.

And an Entertainment District at Millarville!

[timun]

Originally Posted by edslunch

What a cluster of a Pandora's box she has opened.

And I hope that thing bites her head off.

Ladies and gentlemen: your "fiscally responsible" United Conservative Party government.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by timun

Ladies and gentlemen: your "fiscally responsible" United Conservative Party government.

I like it, enough spending money on drop in centres.

Let’s give the people that actually pay taxes stuff they like to use.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Yeah cause #### those less fortunate people.

[aaronck]

So Filipinos and now the less fortunate...Does Yoho have a #### list going just play it by ear?

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I like it, enough spending money on drop in centres.

Let’s give the people that actually pay taxes stuff they like to use.

I don't think you actually understand how taxes work.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by belsarius

I don't think you actually understand how taxes work.

I don’t l want my taxes subsidize roads or fire stations I don’t use. How do I opt out and only pay for the stuff *I* want and be more like ‘Murica?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1652017591807016961

Oilers ownership wanting some of that sweet provincial money too.

Complete idiots. CSEC doesn’t see any of the 300 million the province is giving Calgary. It’s going to infrastructure and half the community rink. Why should OEG get anything all of a sudden. Edmonton missed their chance at squeezing provincial funding for their plaza and community rink. If the province wants to send more money to Edmonton now to keep balance then OEG should call their city council for a cut and not stick their whiny snot covered palms up to Danielle just a few days later. Looks pathetic on them.

[GGG]

Nm

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I like it, enough spending money on drop in centres.

Let’s give the people that actually pay taxes stuff they like to use.

I don’t want an arena though.

Why don’t we just have a referendum and let taxpayers decide if this is the most important thing for a majority of Albertans. .

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1652050091698450432

Just need to nail down the Slava swing state and UCP will be off and running again for another term.

Once again, you’re curiously selective with the polling data that you share.

The Innovative poll is April 19th and does not show much change from its March poll which had the NDP ahead by 1%. That’s likely just noise, and it confirms what we all likely already know: this election is going to be very close from a popular vote standpoint.

Meanwhile, though, other numbers are being released too—Abacus has a poll dated today that shows the race tied, and Oracle has one from the same date as the one you posted that has the NDP up by 2%. I can only assume you didn’t know about those or presumably you would have posted them too.

And on balance, ALL of this data just confirms—again—that the election is a dead heat from a popular vote perspective and will be very close—as long as the UCP vote doesn’t crumble any further.

Under the top lines, the data contains some really dire news for the UCP. The UCP’s numbers are down by double digits from where it was in the last election and likely is going to suffer a double digit seat drop too under its best case scenario.

In the Abacus poll, just 60% of voters who voted for the UCP in the last election intend to vote for the UCP again. 60%! That’s awful — and reflects a party that has lost the trust of a huge chunk of its own base.

But sure, the UCP just needs to “nail down the Slava swing state.” That’s definitely a reasonable interpretation of the polling data.

Don’t change a thing, it’s going great.

[BlackArcher101]

https://twitter.com/WesternStd/statu...82796246138881

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651782796246138881

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Once again, you’re curiously selective with the polling data that you share.

The Innovative poll is April 19th and does not show much change from its March poll which had the NDP ahead by 1%. That’s likely just noise, and it confirms what we all likely already know: this election is going to be very close from a popular vote standpoint.

Meanwhile, though, other numbers are being released too—Abacus has a poll dated today that shows the race tied, and Oracle has one from the same date as the one you posted that has the NDP up by 2%. I can only assume you didn’t know about those or presumably you would have posted them too.

And on balance, ALL of this data just confirms—again—that the election is a dead heat from a popular vote perspective and will be very close—as long as the UCP vote doesn’t crumble any further.

Under the top lines, the data contains some really dire news for the UCP. The UCP’s numbers are down by double digits from where it was in the last election and likely is going to suffer a double digit seat drop too under its best case scenario.

In the Abacus poll, just 60% of voters who voted for the UCP in the last election intend to vote for the UCP again. 60%! That’s awful — and reflects a party that has lost the trust of a huge chunk of its own base.

But sure, the UCP just needs to “nail down the Slava swing state.” That’s definitely a reasonable interpretation of the polling data.

Don’t change a thing, it’s going great.

Fully expecting the arena promise to galvanize the vote for UCP.
Thanks for reply.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Once again, you’re curiously selective with the polling data that you share.

The Innovative poll is April 19th and does not show much change from its March poll which had the NDP ahead by 1%. That’s likely just noise, and it confirms what we all likely already know: this election is going to be very close from a popular vote standpoint.

Meanwhile, though, other numbers are being released too—Abacus has a poll dated today that shows the race tied, and Oracle has one from the same date as the one you posted that has the NDP up by 2%. I can only assume you didn’t know about those or presumably you would have posted them too.

And on balance, ALL of this data just confirms—again—that the election is a dead heat from a popular vote perspective and will be very close—as long as the UCP vote doesn’t crumble any further.

Under the top lines, the data contains some really dire news for the UCP. The UCP’s numbers are down by double digits from where it was in the last election and likely is going to suffer a double digit seat drop too under its best case scenario.

In the Abacus poll, just 60% of voters who voted for the UCP in the last election intend to vote for the UCP again. 60%! That’s awful — and reflects a party that has lost the trust of a huge chunk of its own base.

But sure, the UCP just needs to “nail down the Slava swing state.” That’s definitely a reasonable interpretation of the polling data.

Don’t change a thing, it’s going great.

Exactly. Stay the course Danielle, trust your gut, lean into your hunches, full steam ahead, make sure you verbalize all those million dollar ideas!

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Fully expecting the arena promise to galvanize the vote for UCP.
Thanks for reply.

The patented Yoho kiss of death. This has "red wave" written all over it. Any thoughts on who is gonna win this Panthers Bruins game? I'll bet on the opposite team!

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

How about some cash for Cavalry FC? I'm sure the Southerns could use the help.

Cavalry is doing just fine. One of the best venues in the league (unlike the Stamps or Flames) great food and beverage options, easy access, and excellent atmosphere. It’s well worth a drive for the northern folks, who have, well, nothing.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

I don’t want an arena though.

Why don’t we just have a referendum and let taxpayers decide if this is the most important thing for a majority of Albertans. .

No having an arena referendum is just as stupid as a needing referendums to raise taxes. We elect representatives who in theory have time to gather more data and have access to experts to build good policy.

Direct democracy is terrible. I’d rather elected representatives do things I don’t like than have things go to referendums.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

I don’t want an arena though.

Why don’t we just have a referendum and let taxpayers decide if this is the most important thing for a majority of Albertans. .

Referendums are expensive, and really where way to draw the line? We elect people to make those decisions, because most people don’t have the time to delve into the details of such a project.