10-25-2023, 09:34 AM
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#9281
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Unless he starts producing way more than he is now, Hubby at $8M per season is a boat anchor of a contract.
Now, retaining $2.5MM and taking on some long term back contracts may make it happen. But hard to imagine Calgary improving from such a trade.
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I think it's only done if the team commits to a rebuild
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10-25-2023, 09:35 AM
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#9282
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Yup. I'd say by the end of this season he will want out.
We would have to retain about 2.5 mil in a trade though
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If he has another 55-60 point season there is no reasonable amount of retention where a team will take him on.
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10-25-2023, 09:53 AM
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#9283
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Scoring Winger
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Flames should use NHL Edge to figure out which players have the most speed burst over 20 and with high top speed, and then trade for them to play with Huby. I don’t think our pro scouting ever looked at data like that so watch out they might get one right
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10-25-2023, 10:08 AM
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#9284
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I think it's only done if the team commits to a rebuild
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If they are rebuilding full on, you may as well keep him instead of spending assets to get rid of him.
Hope he eventually rebounds enough such that as he gets closer to the end of his contract, he might be movable.
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10-25-2023, 11:00 AM
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#9285
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Naitix
Flames should use NHL Edge to figure out which players have the most speed burst over 20 and with high top speed, and then trade for them to play with Huby. I don’t think our pro scouting ever looked at data like that so watch out they might get one right
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Interestingly enough, our top 3 fastest based on NHL Edge is:
Zadorov - 23mph
Duehr - 22mph
Kadri - 22mph
Nobody else hits the 22mph mark.
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10-25-2023, 12:17 PM
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#9286
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#1 Goaltender
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I think the best chance for the flames is to get the first overall pick and then hope an 18-year old can carry Huby.
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10-25-2023, 12:20 PM
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#9288
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I think the best chance for the flames is to get the first overall pick and then hope an 18-year old can carry Huby.
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Well, they're on the right track for that.
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10-25-2023, 12:23 PM
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#9289
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Good news for Hanifin's value. I want Conroy to trade Hanfiin and Lindholm back to the Canes just for the odd historical footnote it would make. Hanifin + Lindholm for Jarvis + Kotkaniemi + a 1st haha
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10-25-2023, 12:24 PM
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#9290
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Have two players ever been traded from a team and then sent back to the same team?
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10-25-2023, 12:26 PM
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#9291
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Good news for Hanifin's value. I want Conroy to trade Hanfiin and Lindholm back to the Canes just for the odd historical footnote it would make. Hanifin + Lindholm for Jarvis + Kotkaniemi + a 1st haha
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Also, the talk of Hanifin leaning towards an extension in Calgary likely bodes well for his value. It makes the Flames look less desperate and also gives the acquiring team hope that they can also extend him before free agency hits.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 10-25-2023 at 12:29 PM.
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10-25-2023, 12:32 PM
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#9292
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Franchise Player
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I highly doubt the Flames negotiated in good faith with Hanifin and come close to getting a deal done, only to turn around and send him packing.
A Hanifin trade is not happening.
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10-25-2023, 12:34 PM
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#9293
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I think it's only done if the team commits to a rebuild
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The team can't rebuild as long as guys like Huberdeau and Kadri are around, and to a lesser degree Markstrom. Trading off other players won't be enough to spark a full rebuild. Even if the team does bottom out and gets some high picks that turn into stars, we won't be able to pay them because of the anchors we have.
Yeah yeah, the cap will go up a bit, but so do player salary expectations. I don't see the cap going up enough to make those anchors insignificant.
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10-25-2023, 12:38 PM
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#9294
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I highly doubt the Flames negotiated in good faith with Hanifin and come close to getting a deal done, only to turn around and send him packing.
A Hanifin trade is not happening.
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Things change. If the record doesn't turn around then Hanifin might say he wants out again.
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10-25-2023, 12:38 PM
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#9295
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Things change. If the record doesn't turn around then Hanifin might say he wants out again.
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He never said he wanted out. He said he wasn't ready to negotiate in the summer.
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10-25-2023, 12:41 PM
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#9296
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The team can't rebuild as long as guys like Huberdeau and Kadri are around, and to a lesser degree Markstrom. Trading off other players won't be enough to spark a full rebuild. Even if the team does bottom out and gets some high picks that turn into stars, we won't be able to pay them because of the anchors we have.
Yeah yeah, the cap will go up a bit, but so do player salary expectations. I don't see the cap going up enough to make those anchors insignificant.
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That's hyperbolic. By 2026 the only Flames under contract are Huberdeau, Coleman (one year left), Weegar, and Kadri. The bigger issue with the tear down rebuild is the pick in play in the Monahan trade IMO.
If they sign Lindholm and Hanifin to 8 year deals then it will be tough
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10-25-2023, 12:46 PM
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#9297
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
He never said he wanted out. He said he wasn't ready to negotiate in the summer.
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No, he said in the offseason he wanted to return the US. Agent is flowing stuff through Friedman obviously but the progress on an extension was out of nowhere basis the last update.
https://flamesnation.ca/news/friedma...-united-states
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10-25-2023, 12:55 PM
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#9298
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First Line Centre
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I wish we would stop with the trading Huberdeau scenarios..
It isn't happening.
Hold out hope there is a way Kadri can be moved but please forget about the former moving anytime soon.
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10-25-2023, 01:33 PM
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#9299
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
Interestingly enough, our top 3 fastest based on NHL Edge is:
Zadorov - 23mph
Duehr - 22mph
Kadri - 22mph
Nobody else hits the 22mph mark.
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Dube must be leaving some effort in his tank.
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10-25-2023, 01:38 PM
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#9300
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
I wish we would stop with the trading Huberdeau scenarios..
It isn't happening.
Hold out hope there is a way Kadri can be moved but please forget about the former moving anytime soon.
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Start giving him really itchy jerseys and pull a Hossa.
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