2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Yes he has Value but Vancouver will lose any trade involving him.

He’s probably closer to a PPG player than a 1.2 or 1.5.

He’s not skating like he use too.

He’s not playing the two way game that use to generate offence.

Vancouver just has to hope he rebound. I wouldn’t move him if I was the GM.

But GMs don’t run this league.

His defensive metrics are still strong

But something is wrong with his legs for sure, somebody had posted the NHL Edge numbers but his skating has been drastically worse over the last 8 months in both speed bursts and top speed.

Vancouver seems to have some training staff issues where both Demko and Pettersson's injury issues were downplayed but might be more serious than they are leading on.

Clearly something going on physically with him, here is the article about his NHL edge numbers https://canucksarmy.com/news/vancouv...aising-numbers

He went from 94th percentile in top speed to below 50th percentile.

[dino7c]

If they can get anything the Canucks would be crazy not to move him before his NTC kicks in. 11.6M in cap space is an asset itself.

[SuperMatt18]

Honestly if they would let the team doctors take a look at him I'd be willing to move for him still.

When you look at his NHL Edge numbers you see that his play is likely 100% skating / injury related, and knee tendonitis is very much curable with rest and rehab.

Vancouver's training staff appears to be an absolute gongshow with both Pettersson and Demko looking like they are rushed back from injury or not properly treated.

Maybe if your star center has seen his skating speed / speed bursts drop from being in the elite of the league, to below replacement level, you should take his injury concerns seriously and not just downplay it after the season as him being soft.

Trade for him. Shut him down for the season. Properly rehab his knee. And hope you get the guy who was an elite skater back, instead of the guy playing on one leg who is in the 50th percentile for skating.

[dino7c]

Seems like a lot of risk, price would need to be low

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

His defensive metrics are still strong

But something is wrong with his legs for sure, somebody had posted the NHL Edge numbers but his skating has been drastically worse over the last 8 months in both speed bursts and top speed.

Vancouver seems to have some training staff issues where both Demko and Pettersson's injury issues were downplayed but might be more serious than they are leading on.

Clearly something going on physically with him, here is the article about his NHL edge numbers https://canucksarmy.com/news/vancouv...aising-numbers

He went from 94th percentile in top speed to below 50th percentile.

That's like late 00s/early 10s Oilers like injury numbers

[Paulie Walnuts]

Could it be system related for Pettersson as well? Canucks numbers across the board went down after the all-star break.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Could it be system related for Pettersson as well? Canucks numbers across the board went down after the all-star break.

His 2 highest scoring seasons came under Tocchet.

IMO, Pettersons decline is more about the decline of the Canucks organizational environment than anything. Feels pretty toxic around there.

Tough to play inspired when you went through the ringer with the media, a split dressing room and some crazy owners.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

His 2 highest scoring seasons came under Tocchet.

IMO, Pettersons decline is more about the decline of the Canucks organizational environment than anything. Feels pretty toxic around there.

Tough to play inspired when you went through the ringer with the media, a split dressing room and some crazy owners.

I thought so too...but he was also terrible at this tournament

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

His 2 highest scoring seasons came under Tocchet.

IMO, Pettersons decline is more about the decline of the Canucks organizational environment than anything. Feels pretty toxic around there.

Tough to play inspired when you went through the ringer with the media, a split dressing room and some crazy owners.

It really seems like what happened to the Flames. Great start and fall off at the all-star break and have it carry over to the next season.

[dammage79]

I should say, I'm over the Petterson on the Flames idea. Good player but the cost to acquire isn't palpable.

[dino7c]

Canucks should take what they can get...if they don't they will regret it big time IMO.

[saillias]

It's interesting that Carolina had this deal for Pettersson ready to go and decided to go with the Rantanen trade instead. They'd rather have the UFA for one playoff run and (potentially) the cap space after he walks than a locked up Pettersson. That dropped his stock in my eyes. He is clearly not seen as the 100 point player anymore

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Could it be system related for Pettersson as well? Canucks numbers across the board went down after the all-star break.

It's both.

He is visibly slow right now.

Originally Posted by dammage79

His 2 highest scoring seasons came under Tocchet.

IMO, Pettersons decline is more about the decline of the Canucks organizational environment than anything. Feels pretty toxic around there.

Tough to play inspired when you went through the ringer with the media, a split dressing room and some crazy owners.

His best seasons came half under Boudreau and then what amounts to a full year under Tocchet. The single worse calendar year of Pettersson's professional career has been under Tocchet. Tocchet is 100% part of the issue. Lingering tendonitis is also a major part of it.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

It's both.

He is visibly slow right now.






His best seasons came half under Boudreau and then what amounts to a full year under Tocchet. The single worse calendar year of Pettersson's professional career has been under Tocchet. Tocchet is 100% part of the issue. Lingering tendonitis is also a major part of it.

Toccet isn't coming back is he?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Toccet isn't coming back is he?

If he wants to? Yes. He's Allvin and JR's guy. Whether I like it or not, he's back if he wants the market's scrutiny.

He coaches boring, uninspired hockey. It was fine last year when the team was winning. This year, the games are a slog.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If he wants to? Yes. He's Allvin and JR's guy. Whether I like it or not, he's back if he wants the market's scrutiny.

He coaches boring, uninspired hockey. It was fine last year when the team was winning. This year, the games are a slog.

I told you this is what he wanted. Boring uninspired was on display in the 2024 playoffs.

[Enoch Root]

I took a lot of heat for criticizing the signing - a lot of posters thought it was a steal.

Not looking great right now

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

It's both.

He is visibly slow right now.






His best seasons came half under Boudreau and then what amounts to a full year under Tocchet. The single worse calendar year of Pettersson's professional career has been under Tocchet. Tocchet is 100% part of the issue. Lingering tendonitis is also a major part of it.

So Tocchet's 100% of the issue except for tendonitis which must be 0% of the issue.

Did you not watch him at the 4 Nations? Totally invisible and he was benched in the 3rd period by the Swedish coach. But yeah lets blame Tocchet.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by chummer

So Tocchet's 100% of the issue except for tendonitis which must be 0% of the issue.

Did you not watch him at the 4 Nations? Totally invisible and he was benched in the 3rd period by the Swedish coach. But yeah lets blame Tocchet.

You struggle with this reading thing often or is it just selective when replying to me?

[chummer]

Harsh-

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