2009 NFL Off Season Thread

[OILFAN #81]

Whoa, can't believe that there is no more Gonzalez on the Chiefs. He was the face of the franchise. Good move by the Falcons IMO.

[Swayze11]

Originally Posted by iggnuef

yes and they wont be Tony Gonzalez's aswell

Tony for 2 years is better then a average TE we woulda drafted in the 2nd. For that matter, name me a TE that was drafted in the last 2 years in the 2nd round that would compare to TG in the last couple of years?

http://www.nfl.com/players/tonygonza...e?id=GON587645

I think if Bennett in Dallas was the starter he has the potential. I think of Zach Miller in Oakland. Fasano comes to mind, Witten in 03.

[iggnuef]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

I think if Bennett in Dallas was the starter he has the potential. I think of Zach Miller in Oakland. Fasano comes to mind, Witten in 03.

ok here is the last 3 years of TE stats.....tell me more TE's that have been better then him.....drafted in whatever round, doesnt matter.

Like I said, for a couple years it works for me

2006

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

2007

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

2008

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

[Swayze11]

^ in no way am I saying hes a bad player. I just think a 2nd rounder is an overpayment for the age aspect. If ATL was interested in a TE, they should have tried harder for Winslow.

[iggnuef]

well its all just opinions......and I dont think KWjr is that good anyway, just one good year

That being said, time will tell

[Displaced Flames fan]

Bad news for Dwayne Bowe and Matt 'The Saviour' Cassell.

[carom]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

^ in no way am I saying hes a bad player. I just think a 2nd rounder is an overpayment for the age aspect. If ATL was interested in a TE, they should have tried harder for Winslow.

I think the injury history aspect for Winslow is more of a risk compared to the age aspect for Gonzalez, and I am a bucs fan

[Mav]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Good news for my Colts. Reggie restructures his contract to help the team's cap hit.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Bad news for Dwayne Bowe and Matt 'The Saviour' Cassell.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. TG would have been Cassell's biggest target. Not only can he make unbelievable catches, he consistently draws a crowd as well. Which opens up Bowe. Now Bowe will be the one double and triple teamed. I wonder why Pioli would stake his reputation on Matt Cassell, then trade away the most valuable weapon to help Cassell succeed? Obviously the jury is still out on Pioli, but you gotta wonder what the heck he is thinking?

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Thats exactly what I was thinking. TG would have been Cassell's biggest target. Not only can he make unbelievable catches, he consistently draws a crowd as well. Which opens up Bowe. Now Bowe will be the one double and triple teamed. I wonder why Pioli would stake his reputation on Matt Cassell, then trade away the most valuable weapon to help Cassell succeed? Obviously the jury is still out on Pioli, but you gotta wonder what the heck he is thinking?

Wasn't TG asking for a trade before the deadline, at least wanting a chance to play for a winner?

Perhaps this is Pioli granting a players wish? But it will make it harder for his team this year.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Yeah, I think Tony was asking for a trade...in a respectful way. Maybe KC is hoping to trade out of the #3 spot and grab Pettigrew later in the round.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Wasn't TG asking for a trade before the deadline, at least wanting a chance to play for a winner?

Perhaps this is Pioli granting a players wish? But it will make it harder for his team this year.

Yeah he was asking. Still, with the amount of money the Hunt family has paid him over the years. He would have stayed put and still produced.

As a Chiefs fan, it is sad all around. One of the greatest players in franchise history is leaving to finish his carrer else where. A young team that deperately needs a playmaker is losing its best player. As a fan it is tough to swallow.

[iggnuef]

Have you heard the rumblings of the NFL having the Superbowl in London at some point? Just heard it on PTI.

What a stupid idea, haven't heard something this ludicris in a long time. What's next? The Stanley Cup in Thailand???

Shake your head Goddell if you even consider this!!!!

EDIT: BBC is talking about it...said it was a real good possibility

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Yeah he was asking. Still, with the amount of money the Hunt family has paid him over the years. He would have stayed put and still produced.

As a Chiefs fan, it is sad all around. One of the greatest players in franchise history is leaving to finish his carrer else where. A young team that deperately needs a playmaker is losing its best player. As a fan it is tough to swallow.

Yeah it sucks, but the Chiefs being where they are likely aren't going to be in much of a position to seriously contend in the next two years. So allowing Gonzalez to move to a team where he might get to win a playoff game or two is just granting him his wish. It's better than keeping a guy around who really didn't want to be there. Although TG would never detract from his team and give less than 100% it was time for both parties to move forward. It's football and most of the time the good move is to trade the aging veteran player for youth.

[burn_baby_burn]

It won't happen. If it does it won't be for decades.

In referance to the Super Bowl in London.

[SteveToms]

Stafford and Lions agree to deal
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4097641

[Pagal4321]

Stafford’s deal is worth $78 million over six years, with $41.7 million guaranteed.

[Bobblehead]

The first few picks are so expensive for a crap shoot I understand why no team would want it.

Put a rookie salary cap in, As long as the regular salary cap doesn't change then the players will still be getting the same amount, there just won't be as much going to unproven rookies.

[transplant99]

What a stupid idea, haven't heard something this ludicris in a long time

Christopher Bridges (born September 11, 1977),[1] better known by his stage name Ludacris, is an American rapper, and actor



ludicrous

adjective causing laughter because of absurdity; provoking or deserving derision; ridiculous; laughable

[transplant99]

An incredible story of a young man about to become an NFL player later today.

Really worth the watch....and i know i will be cheering for him throughout his career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FhlbsJUJ9Q