10-02-2021, 02:11 PM
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#901
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I lean toward not deporting him, especially given his remorse and so many victims’ family members supporting letting him stay. I feel really bad for him. He’ll pay for that mistake for the rest of his life.
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10-02-2021, 03:02 PM
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#902
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I also lean towards not deporting him although I don’t think victim forgiveness should be a factor. I think it should be more based on his history and likeliness to commit other crimes. I don’t think the spirit or intent of the law is to deport immigrants of his nature.
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10-02-2021, 03:13 PM
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#903
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Agreed on not deporting him. I think he's showed genuine remorse throughout and I don't think he's a high risk to offend again. As long as he serves his prison sentence I think he's paid his dues.
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10-02-2021, 03:15 PM
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#904
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Agreed at not deporting him
I still place more blame at the company than I do the driver.
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10-02-2021, 03:16 PM
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#905
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Btw, the reason ctv interviewed him is because W5 is doing an expose on the trucking industry, airs tonight.
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10-02-2021, 03:18 PM
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#906
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Lifetime Suspension
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He should 100% be deported. There are laws for a reason, can't just pick and choose when to apply them.
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10-02-2021, 03:20 PM
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#907
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
He should 100% be deported. There are laws for a reason, can't just pick and choose when to apply them.
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Actually there’s a review process for this very reason.
The CBSA officer literally gets to pick and choose when to apply them.
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10-02-2021, 03:28 PM
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#908
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Scoring Winger
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shouldn't be deported.
Driver training and certification needs to be more tightly regulated. Too many companies are churning out unqualified drivers to satisfy the growing demand.
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10-02-2021, 04:05 PM
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#909
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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I agree with all those who say he shouldn't be deported. This was someone being put into a situation he wasn't prepared for by his employer and a shady industry. There is absolutely no increase in danger to society if he stays in Canada.
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10-02-2021, 04:11 PM
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#910
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Actually there’s a review process for this very reason.
The CBSA officer literally gets to pick and choose when to apply them.
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36 (1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible on grounds of serious criminality for
(a) having been convicted in Canada of an offence under an Act of Parliament punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years, or of an offence under an Act of Parliament for which a term of imprisonment of more than six months has been imposed
Says here no appeal process
64 (1) No appeal may be made to the Immigration Appeal Division by a foreign national or their sponsor or by a permanent resident if the foreign national or permanent resident has been found to be inadmissible on grounds of security, violating human or international rights, serious criminality or organized criminality.
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10-02-2021, 04:49 PM
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#911
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
36 (1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible on grounds of serious criminality for
(a) having been convicted in Canada of an offence under an Act of Parliament punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years, or of an offence under an Act of Parliament for which a term of imprisonment of more than six months has been imposed
Says here no appeal process
64 (1) No appeal may be made to the Immigration Appeal Division by a foreign national or their sponsor or by a permanent resident if the foreign national or permanent resident has been found to be inadmissible on grounds of security, violating human or international rights, serious criminality or organized criminality.
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If only someone had posted an article with more information that you could have read.
Oh wait, there was…
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The odds are not in Sidhu's favour. Some Humboldt families have spoken out in support of his deportation. And the onus is on lawyer Michael Green to convince one Canadian Border Services Agency enforcement officer that he should be allowed to stay.
"This has got to be one of the most difficult cases a CBSA officer could ever have, because it's not clear cut. Normally, you've got a really serious offence. It's easy for them to say 'bye-bye.' In this case... you've got a crime of inadvertence, you've got somebody with an unblemished record who is well established in Canada, has a bright future. There's another factor too, which is his wife. They had this dream together. While he's pretty broken, he's not just fighting for himself, he's asking for a second chance for his wife too."
Once the CBSA officer makes a ruling it is sent to the immigration minister's delegate, who has the ultimate decision on deportation. Green says in rare cases the immigration minister can intervene.
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10-02-2021, 04:52 PM
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#912
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Why deport?
Doing so will solve what?
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10-02-2021, 04:53 PM
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#913
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Franchise Player
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The guy has been through enough, let him stay.
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10-02-2021, 04:54 PM
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#914
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I’m not sure what his chances are but I don’t see what good it does. He represents no danger to society, was and could still be a contributing member of society, it was not a violent or premeditated crime and there’s basically zero chance he ever commits a crime again.
There’s no public benefit to deport him.
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10-02-2021, 05:00 PM
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#915
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
If only someone had posted an article with more information that you could have read.
Oh wait, there was…
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If only there was a Canadian immigration and refugee protection act. That's what I quoted.
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10-02-2021, 05:57 PM
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#916
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No alcohol or drugs involved.
Was not speeding.
No prior driving violations.
Let the guy and his family get on with life in Canada if he chooses.
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10-02-2021, 06:02 PM
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#917
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Bump
The “Humboldt driver” is facing deportation and is fighting it…with support from some of the victims families.
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Good. He should fight it.
He made a horrifying error that resulted in loss of life.
You know who’s driving with undue care and attention ALSO resulted in loss of life but didn’t hit a bus….???
Oh just the Premier of Saskatchewan Scott Moe.
In addition to killing some due to his negligence… in other separate events Premier Moe was charged with leaving the scene of an accident and more than one DUI.
But I have no doubt the fact that these events didn’t stop him from being Premier had nothing to do with white priviledge. I mean I’m sure if these events were on the resume of an average indigenous person or new Canadian who bankrupted a business they too could be premier and not in jail.
That or Scott Moe is a Webster’s Dictionary example of white privilege. He’s just a good ol’boy. Never meaning no harm….
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/w5/...1_5607925.html[/QUOTE]
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10-02-2021, 06:02 PM
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#918
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Franchise Player
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Mercy is a helluva drug.
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10-02-2021, 06:11 PM
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#919
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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The rule says he should be deported but because kids died he shouldn't? Is it be abuse people felt sorry for him and wrote letters? Is it because he feels remorse?
I just don't get it, it's a law and if they don't follow through with this it will open a huge can of worms.
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10-02-2021, 06:15 PM
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#920
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I just don't get it, it's a law and if they don't follow through with this it will open a huge can of worms.
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What can of worms is that? Not a super common situation and would have a very narrow application to use as precedent.
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