09-19-2025, 12:32 PM
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#9101
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
So, every move that a GM makes is a good one? I don't agree with signing him before the season, maybe during the season or next off season. I see no risk of him leaving because he didn't get an offer right now.
I see very little risk of him having a good season and costing the team more money later.
If we develop players ahead of schedule, team exceeds expectations again this year and a decision to move the timeline to compete up a year is still very possible. His contract could be 1 we want to move and can't in a year or 2 and this is all for a guy that no way he closes the door on an extension because you waited 3-6 months.
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No, but not every move you personally don’t think is good is a bad one and your interpretation of the situation probably misses most of the reality of it, not being in the room or understanding the team or the contract outlook.
If you think we should wait 3 months because signing now carries risk of this contract somehow handcuffing us in any way, I would say that’s mostly complaining for the sake of complaining and not particularly realistic.
Barring a career-ending injury, there is nothing that could change in the next 3-6 months that will make Lomberg any less worth signing.
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09-19-2025, 12:42 PM
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#9102
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Franchise Player
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I was not a fan of the Lomberg signing but boy has my view changed on him.
He has an outsized impact on his teammates that I think his hard to replace and doesn't show up on the stats page. I realize some fans get tired hearing about "intangibles" but Lomberg might be one of the strongest arguments for the value of character. The team has a lot of quiet leaders (Backlund, though he sure likes to drop an f-bomb, Weegar, Huberdeau, etc). Lomberg is the guy speaking up and injecting positivity every game.
I wouldn't be in a hurry to send that guy packing, particularly if the return is no more than a 3rd at best.
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09-19-2025, 12:47 PM
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#9103
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
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Barring a career-ending injury, there is nothing that could change in the next 3-6 months that will make Lomberg any less worth signing.
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He's a career 4th liner on the wrong side of 30. He can easily lose a step and become unworthy of a contract. He's literally the 12th forward on one of the worst offensive teams in league. I don't think it would handcuff the team, just don't see the point.
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09-19-2025, 12:49 PM
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#9104
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
He's a career 4th liner on the wrong side of 30. He can easily lose a step and become unworthy of a contract. He's literally the 12th forward on one of the worst offensive teams in league. I don't think it would handcuff the team, just don't see the point.
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Glue guy. Teams need a glue guy. It really helps the overall performance of a group. This is true from minor hockey all the way up.
A lot of people look at the players in isolation (J fresh card) and are ready to dump them. This is a team game. If someone like Lomberg helps the others on the roster achieve 5% more then that is a ton of value to a group. Not to mention being a mentor to younger players.
Also, the guy is an animal and exciting to watch out there.
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09-19-2025, 12:58 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, but not every move you personally don’t think is good is a bad one and your interpretation of the situation probably misses most of the reality of it, not being in the room or understanding the team or the contract outlook.
If you think we should wait 3 months because signing now carries risk of this contract somehow handcuffing us in any way, I would say that’s mostly complaining for the sake of complaining and not particularly realistic.
Barring a career-ending injury, there is nothing that could change in the next 3-6 months that will make Lomberg any less worth signing.
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I never said my opinion is always tight. But it’s an opinion the differs from what is rumoured to be what the Flames are doing. I’m stating what my opinion is. Clearly you opinion is only what the team does and you just can’t disagree with what the team is doing I guess
Is this franchise altering no. But I could se several player out performing Lomberg this season and in 3 to 6 months seeing a situation where the team should have gone in a different direction. Not sure how you can say that is impossible
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09-19-2025, 01:02 PM
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#9106
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knut
Glue guy. Teams need a glue guy. It really helps the overall performance of a group. This is true from minor hockey all the way up.
A lot of people look at the players in isolation (J fresh card) and are ready to dump them. This is a team game. If someone like Lomberg helps the others on the roster achieve 5% more then that is a ton of value to a group. Not to mention being a mentor to younger players.
Also, the guy is an animal and exciting to watch out there.
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I get that he's well liked. Not a very good hockey player though. Not sure he contributes a 5% bump either. It would kind of be like extending McGrattan a year early just cause the players like him. Nothing wrong with signing him half way into the season if he's still in the line-up.
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09-19-2025, 01:15 PM
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#9107
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Participant 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
He's a career 4th liner on the wrong side of 30. He can easily lose a step and become unworthy of a contract. He's literally the 12th forward on one of the worst offensive teams in league. I don't think it would handcuff the team, just don't see the point.
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And yet every cup winner sees the point. The only difference being we could hold on to one we know is effective because we have the cap space to do so.
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
I never said my opinion is always tight. But it’s an opinion the differs from what is rumoured to be what the Flames are doing. I’m stating what my opinion is. Clearly you opinion is only what the team does and you just can’t disagree with what the team is doing I guess
Is this franchise altering no. But I could se several player out performing Lomberg this season and in 3 to 6 months seeing a situation where the team should have gone in a different direction. Not sure how you can say that is impossible
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No, my opinion is that your opinion isn’t really based on realistic concerns and you’re missing or ignoring the positive aspects here, which I said.
Players outplay him right now. How is that changing in 3 to 6 months? He has a specific role, is a leader in the room and basically exemplifies how they want rookies to train and approach the game, and can be effective coming in after riding the bench. What about that would change?
Every time needs good depth guys. Why are we the exception?
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09-19-2025, 01:20 PM
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#9108
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
He's a career 4th liner on the wrong side of 30. He can easily lose a step and become unworthy of a contract. He's literally the 12th forward on one of the worst offensive teams in league. I don't think it would handcuff the team, just don't see the point.
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He's 30
If he was 34 or 35, I could understand the 'lose a step' argument.
But he's 30 and he won the fitness test this year.
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09-19-2025, 01:22 PM
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#9109
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yeah I think we see Lomberg play less games and be more of a 13th forward this year. But I think he's exactly the guy they want to be the 13th forward because he's going to model the kind of attitude and preparation they want everyone else to aspire to. For that reason I think it's fine for them to give him a contract.
I also think that fans absolutely love him and that you can't underestimate the value of that, especially on a team without bonafide stars.
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09-19-2025, 02:09 PM
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#9110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I was not a fan of the Lomberg signing but boy has my view changed on him.
He has an outsized impact on his teammates that I think his hard to replace and doesn't show up on the stats page. I realize some fans get tired hearing about "intangibles" but Lomberg might be one of the strongest arguments for the value of character. The team has a lot of quiet leaders (Backlund, though he sure likes to drop an f-bomb, Weegar, Huberdeau, etc). Lomberg is the guy speaking up and injecting positivity every game.
I wouldn't be in a hurry to send that guy packing, particularly if the return is no more than a 3rd at best.
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I am completely in the same boat with you in regards to Lomberg. I appreciated his energy during his 1st stint in Calgary but I thought players of his style are extinct. I was only looking at one facet of his game - fighting.
I appreciated him in Florida because he was part of the team that beat the Oilers in 2024. Then he signed with Calgary again and I thought "Why do we need him?".
He showed how valuable he is to the team and he showed me that he isn't just here to throw punches at people. He brings so much energy and is a good leader and influence on the young guys looking to make a name for themselves. You only git rid of a guy like that if he wants out or you have more than one.
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09-19-2025, 02:54 PM
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Franchise Player
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People laugh but I think Lambo was actually huge for the Panthers in the finals...when they put him back he set the tone and they started pounding on the Oilers D again instead of sitting back and waiting for the cup to fall in their laps.
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09-19-2025, 03:10 PM
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#9112
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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I love Lombo …and I’ve never been a thread nazi before …but can we move the talk to a different thread?
Maybe someone start a ‘Ryan Frickin Lomberg’ thread?
I keep thinking there’s actual trade rumours but it’s an entire page of debating Lomberg’s intangibles.
Anyhoo, maybe I’m being a grumpy old man. I’ll see myself out.
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09-19-2025, 03:12 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Lomberg a great team guy. But that's about it. 4th liner or 13th forward. Wouldn't pay more then 1.5mm.
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09-19-2025, 03:25 PM
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#9114
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Franchise Player
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One of the many benefits of having Lomberg is that it makes it easier to trade Coleman when the time comes, because Lomberg brings similar leadership to the room
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09-19-2025, 03:28 PM
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#9115
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty2hotty
I love Lombo …and I’ve never been a thread nazi before …but can we move the talk to a different thread?
Maybe someone start a ‘Ryan Frickin Lomberg’ thread?
I keep thinking there’s actual trade rumours but it’s an entire page of debating Lomberg’s intangibles.
Anyhoo, maybe I’m being a grumpy old man. I’ll see myself out.
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trade rumors and speculation thread...
there is speculation the Flames will re-up Lombo and people are discussing/debating the merits of it as he is a pending UFA. Seems like the right thread. Should they decide not to re-sign him there is a potential trade as well.
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09-19-2025, 03:30 PM
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#9116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty2hotty
I love Lombo …and I’ve never been a thread nazi before …but can we move the talk to a different thread?
Maybe someone start a ‘Ryan Frickin Lomberg’ thread?
I keep thinking there’s actual trade rumours but it’s an entire page of debating Lomberg’s intangibles.
Anyhoo, maybe I’m being a grumpy old man. I’ll see myself out.
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There's never more than like 0.01% of trade rumours in this thread and it's 99.99% general flow roster talk.
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09-19-2025, 03:31 PM
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#9117
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Franchise Player
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2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread
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09-19-2025, 03:34 PM
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#9118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty2hotty
I love Lombo …and I’ve never been a thread nazi before …but can we move the talk to a different thread?
Maybe someone start a ‘Ryan Frickin Lomberg’ thread?
I keep thinking there’s actual trade rumours but it’s an entire page of debating Lomberg’s intangibles.
Anyhoo, maybe I’m being a grumpy old man. I’ll see myself out.
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you must be new here
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09-19-2025, 03:37 PM
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#9119
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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lol. Yes …. TRADE speculation. Lombo EXTENSION is not trade related.
Anyway, no biggie. Just my opinion. I’ve been outvoted. Carry on.
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Last edited by scotty2hotty; 09-19-2025 at 03:43 PM.
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09-19-2025, 03:53 PM
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#9120
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty2hotty
lol. Yes …. TRADE speculation. Lombo EXTENSION is not trade related.
Anyway, no biggie. Just my opinion. I’ve been outvoted. Carry on.
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Trade rumors are speculation...the would be no need to mention it twice. Its roster speculation in general. Besides, guy is a pending UFA...extending him or not extending him certainly fits as he certainly could be traded if not extended.
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