You Know What Really Grinds My Gears? Now with 3x more gears...

[timun]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

But, to be clear, my gear grinder was for people specifically not liking a game that is otherwise excellent because they didn't like the story.

People are telling you your opinion on this is wrong because it's an absurdly narrow interpretation of the "worth" of video games as a storytelling and/or art medium. You're arguing people are "wrong" for even bothering to consider the story because that's "not the point of video games". Who are you to decide that for them? It's just arrogant presumption on your part.

It's like saying "people who dislike books because they dislike the story, even though the quality of the writing itself is impeccable, RGMG" or "people who dislike songs because they don't like the melody, even though the calibre of the instrument-playing is fantastic, RGMG". It's not for you to decide.

[RichieRich]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

What kind of writing? I think there is something to be said for it being just crazy enough you had to mention it on a message board. It's arguably a shame the door is totally closed on the interview. Crazy people in the right job for said crazy can be game changers. I'm not saying the resume as described isn't one of the more loony things I've heard, but maybe the person is actually quite different from what you might expect based on it. Worst case Ontario is they're simply not the right candidate. I think I'd be a terrible business owner...

Would definitely be most entertaining to bring them in. Or to a different neutral location so if they go postal (or turn stalker) there are options. Yep they could be a quiet awkward genius that hasn’t got a clue. Keep them in the back office being quietly hyper focused and productive BUT never let them integrate with the normal people.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by timun

It's like saying "people who dislike books because they dislike the story, even though the quality of the writing itself is impeccable, RGMG" or "people who dislike songs because they don't like the melody, even though the calibre of the instrument-playing is fantastic, RGMG". It's not for you to decide.

Nope, wrong analogy. "Writing" is as essential element to a story, same as "music-playing" would be an essential element to a song. The correct equivalent analogy would be "people who dislike games because they dislike the gameplay, really GMG" -- which yes, wouldn't make sense, because there is no game without gameplay. But there is game without story, it's an inessential element to a video game.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Weitz

It boggles my mind that adults drink pop or pop adjacent things.

Why? Are adults only allowed to drink liquor or water or things adjacent to those two?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Nope, wrong analogy. "Writing" is as essential element to a story, same as "music-playing" would be an essential element to a song.

No it isn't. The essential element to a story is a plot.

Your position is analogous to complaining about people who don't want to read stories unless they have strong prose, or deeply developed characters who grow and change over the course of the story, or imagery that creates a vivid atmosphere for the story to live in, because in your view all that really matters is an entertaining plot.

Again, it's like you're being a snob but rather than being pretentious about the things people usually are, you're actually drawing the line at "lowest common denominator" and getting irritated that people ask for more than that.

It's an interesting position, to demand entertainment products that concern themselves solely with the desires of mouth-breathers and drooling groundlings, but hey.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

It boggles my mind that something like this would boggle someone’s mind.

I just had a Birch Beer with lunch and it ####ing slapped.

I had Annex Ales Craft Root Beer at Buchanan's the other day and it was friggin' delicious.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Nope, wrong analogy. "Writing" is as essential element to a story, same as "music-playing" would be an essential element to a song. The correct equivalent analogy would be "people who dislike games because they dislike the gameplay, really GMG" -- which yes, wouldn't make sense, because there is no game without gameplay. But there is game without story, it's an inessential element to a video game.

Hmm... IMO...

It's perfectly normal for gameplay to ruin a story. I remember Dino Crisis and Parasite Eve on the PSX had a story that intrigued me. But I could not further the story because of the fricken camera angles in some of those chase sections to the game. It's like a good joke being ruined by the delivery. Or someone telling a good story that gets interrupted/goes off track a dozen times until it's too damn confusing to follow.

The opposite is true. You could have a good delivery of a bad joke. Like games that were given a backstory for back story sake like Starcraft/Fortnite which... honestly speaking 99.9% of those that play it do not give a crap or are perhaps not even aware of the story, but enjoy the game play.


So for people who dislike games because they dislike gameplay in general, I get it. I currently suffer from a type of gaming ennui and mental fatigue that I'm trying to overcome. I'd currently much rather watch a movie/Show where the story is constantly progressing, rather than have a story constantly interrupted in its delivery to the point I'm confused what is going on.

Video games are a different story telling medium. Many of them you have to piece the story together through a whole bunch of other random events and data points that could be considered "noise and drivel". But, that is how it becomes immersive and you feel like you're part of the story or it's the story "as told by you" sort of thing vs purely a spectator. Movies you feel more like a spectator rather than part of the story. That's why a Life is Strange video game would be completely different story than a Life is Strange movie. That's why a Hamilton Broadway production would be totally different than a full length movie based on the Hamilton Broadway script due to the frequent breaking/addressing of the 4th wall of many Broadway productions.

The audience may have different preferences on how they'd like to be addressed/engaged in the story and the audience members may enjoy a story more purely based on whether the medium used is closer to the style of delivery that they'd like/prefer to experience the story.

[bc-chris]

It boggles my mind that something like this would boggle someone’s mind.

I just had a Birch Beer with lunch and it ####ing slapped.

for us old guys... is that a good thing or a bad thing

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by bc-chris

for us old guys... is that a good thing or a bad thing

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...+####ing+slaps

I'm pretty sure means it's so good that you don't want to use the word good.

I don't understand how metaphors are created anymore. This phrase is as confusing to saying something is good by saying, "Siiiiick"

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by bc-chris

for us old guys... is that a good thing or a bad thing

It's a good thing.

[chemgear]

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Bad resumes are gold.

I still remember a 15 year "experienced" engineer had "Won Esso minor hockey week in PeeWee". But now looking back maybe he was adding humour.

One job I was totally underqualified for but I wanted, I put "Voted most likely to make coworkers spit our water laughing". I got the interview and they actually said "you aren;t qualified for this role but we wanted to meet you". Totally didn't get the job. Damn Raging River!

My fave is when people put their GPA on their resume. OooooooOoOoOoOoooooo. Wow.

[MoneyGuy]

I love my Coke Zero, about six cans a week. Best diet soft drink.

[Brendone]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...+####ing+slaps

I'm pretty sure means it's so good that you don't want to use the word good.

I don't understand how metaphors are created anymore. This phrase is as confusing to saying something is good by saying, "Siiiiick"

I always find this amusing when some describe conditions in the ski thread. Need some sort of Pauly Shore to English translator. I just assume they mean good.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Engine09

The secret to Slurpees for me is you have to cut them down with water. I take it home and pour into 2 cups, about 1/4 water in each cup and refreeze. Perfect.

I realize there were a lot of bad takes taking the attention this morning, but I'm surprised this absolutely insane comment was just... left alone.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Brendone

I always find this amusing when some describe conditions in the ski thread. Need some sort of Pauly Shore to English translator. I just assume they mean good.

When I first saw the phrase, I thought it might have been something like, "It was so awesome I slapped my knee. Ergo, ####ing slaps."

But the logic didn't seem to be consistent with all of the usage. But I guess... the same happens with lol. Lots of lol usages are not audible.

[Brendone]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I realize there were a lot of bad takes taking the attention this morning, but I'm surprised this absolutely insane comment was just... left alone.

All I thought was screw the water. I used to cut my slurpee with rum

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I realize there were a lot of bad takes taking the attention this morning, but I'm surprised this absolutely insane comment was just... left alone.

But... how do you even take on this comment?

It's like being surprised by a flasher. Your first instinct isn't to point and laugh, it's to turn and run.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Brendone

All I thought was screw the water. I used to cut my slurpee with rum

That's not really cutting a slurpee though... isn't it? I'd consider that enhancing it.

Sprite/Soho lychee was one that was always kinda fun to introduce to friends.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

What kind of writing? I think there is something to be said for it being just crazy enough you had to mention it on a message board. It's arguably a shame the door is totally closed on the interview. Crazy people in the right job for said crazy can be game changers. I'm not saying the resume as described isn't one of the more loony things I've heard, but maybe the person is actually quite different from what you might expect based on it. Worst case Ontario is they're simply not the right candidate. I think I'd be a terrible business owner...

Writing in tech. Which is why it isn’t out the question that it was a legitimate job application, and the applicant was a legitimate big-brain.

Ultimately she was discounted as a candidate because A) our manager was genuinely afraid she was a Ted Kaczynski-type nutbar, and B) one of the primary criteria for the job was the ability to communicate clearly and effectively to your target audience, and the resume was an absolute failure on that front.

My co-worker and I wanted to meet her regardless, if just for a coffee to find out what her deal was. But that would have been unprofessional. He did keep a copy of the resume for us to take out and marvel at every now and then. It’s impossible to exaggerate how astonishingly cryptic and bonkers it was.