10-13-2023, 12:53 AM
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#9001
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think it was the 55 points and $10.5M cap hit for 8 years that irritated people, not lacking effort.
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Sure, except he didn’t make 10.5 last year and there were a lot of people who claimed he pouted or floated or both. I never saw either.
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10-13-2023, 04:24 AM
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#9002
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Sure, except he didn’t make 10.5 last year and there were a lot of people who claimed he pouted or floated or both. I never saw either.
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I’m not sure the fact that his 8 year contract did not start until this year is particularly relevant. Should posters have expected less last year?
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10-13-2023, 04:47 AM
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#9003
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
I’m not sure the fact that his 8 year contract did not start until this year is particularly relevant. Should posters have expected less last year?
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Facts are facts - he made half of that last year. And the fact also remains that a lot of posters claimed he was floating.
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10-13-2023, 11:14 AM
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#9005
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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I would love for the Flames to sign Poolparty. I think pairing him with Backlund would be huge.
Huberdeau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Kadri - Coronato
Coleman - Backlund - Puljujarvi
Greer/Sharangovich - Ruzicka - Duehr
Sharangovich/Greer
Puljujarvi's two way game is solid. Not good at finishing though, but who knows - maybe it could click.
Good article on him.
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Puljujarvi’s impact on scoring chances at both ends of the ice is remarkable. Adjusted for teammates, competition, zone starts, etc., the Oilers create a lot more chances and prevent a lot more chances against when he’s on the ice, and those results have been consistent across his past two seasons. Despite the fact that he has struggled on the powerplay and ranks very poorly in terms of finishing his scoring chances, he still grades out as having a very strong impact.
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Despite a relative lack of production, a big reason that many analytically-inclined fans think so highly of Puljujärvi is the way that McDavid and Draisaitl perform better with him on the ice. For example, this season, the combo of McDavid and Puljujarvi outscored opponents 34 to 15 when they were on the ice together, but McDavid without Puljujärvi only outscored them 39 to 35. Scoring chance and shot metrics told a similar story; while Puljujärvi obviously isn’t the driver on these lines it seems undeniable that something in his game helps Connor be his best self.
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If the Flames can sign him, they absolutely should. He may not be a Nichushkin level find, but I think he is a "fixer" much in the same way prime Frolik was. It would be found money.
Last edited by ComixZone; 10-13-2023 at 11:18 AM.
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10-13-2023, 11:25 AM
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#9006
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Absolutely not. The guy just isn't cut out for the NHL. He should go and carve out a career in Europe.
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10-13-2023, 11:25 AM
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#9007
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Didn't he just have double hip surgery?
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10-13-2023, 11:26 AM
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#9008
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Lifetime Suspension
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Is he really an upgrade over Sharangovich to bump him out of the lineup?
I don't think so he is a dumb hockey player.
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10-13-2023, 11:27 AM
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#9009
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Facts are facts - he made half of that last year. And the fact also remains that a lot of posters claimed he was floating.
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Sure it’s a fact, but a completely irrelevant one. He was already guaranteed $84M on his next contract. Now that’s a relevant fact.
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10-13-2023, 11:42 AM
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#9010
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Franchise Player
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...did anyone read the article I just posted?
He's not a dumb hockey player. He's a defensively responsible smart hockey player that has problems finishing.
It would be great to dunk on Edmonton by having Puljujarvi end up being a good NHL'er as a Flame.
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10-13-2023, 11:43 AM
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#9011
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Franchise Player
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Noselicker is coming off an insane surgery x 2 - there’s no way he gets back to 100%.
Much like Monahan those hips will forever have issues that keep him in and out of the lineup constantly.
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10-13-2023, 11:43 AM
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#9012
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All I can get
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The Bison King and the Bison?
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10-13-2023, 11:43 AM
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#9013
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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I'd consider Puljujarvi on a "show me" deal assuming the Flames doctors like what they see. Put him on LTIR until healthy and not rush things. He is a third liner at the NHL level, but his possession/defensive numbers prior to last season were excellent. Not sure who he displaces, but I'd let the players sort that out for themselves over the next couple months.
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10-13-2023, 11:44 AM
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#9014
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Sure it’s a fact, but a completely irrelevant one. He was already guaranteed $84M on his next contract. Now that’s a relevant fact.
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And he has 2 points one game into his guarantees $84M contract (and is on pace for 164pts...yeah yeah small sample size). That's also a relevant fact.
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10-13-2023, 11:58 AM
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#9015
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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I'd like to see it. He would come cheap, and the potential return is high. I'm sure he wouldn't mind a chance to stick it to E=NG as well. Only argument against would be him plugging up our own prospects, but none have nearly the actual NHL exp he has.
Just heard the "goal-a" song on fan960 the other day where Glencross was a prominent member. Would love an updated version with pool party.
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10-13-2023, 12:19 PM
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#9016
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Franchise Player
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If he couldn’t figure it out in Carolina with Rod as a coach, why would he suddenly figure it out here?
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10-13-2023, 12:19 PM
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#9017
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
...did anyone read the article I just posted?
He's not a dumb hockey player. He's a defensively responsible smart hockey player that has problems finishing.
It would be great to dunk on Edmonton by having Puljujarvi end up being a good NHL'er as a Flame.
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It’s an easy narrative to lean on because the guy looks like a doofus.
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10-13-2023, 12:20 PM
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#9018
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by mile
If he couldn’t figure it out in Carolina with Rod as a coach, why would he suddenly figure it out here?
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He played 17 games due to hip problems. Just recovering from surgery.
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10-13-2023, 12:22 PM
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#9019
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Franchise Player
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I would be in favour of a try-out contract with Puljujarvi - nothing to lose. I think the chances of him ever being an effective NHLer again are fairly low, but at no cost, with the FU EDM factor on top, why not?
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