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Old 02-05-2019, 04:38 PM   #8981
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:44 PM   #8982
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Look, the guy is a useful NHL player. I'm not saying he's not. I don't want to get rid of him.

I am saying there are areas of his game that, to this point, have prevented him from being the player we thought we were getting when he was drafted 4th overall. They are his passing and hockey sense. And a limited moveset.

Sam Bennett is allegedly one of the six or seven most skilled forwards on the team. Once it became clear that Bennett was never going to be close to what Monahan is as a centre, Bennett got a chance to be Elias Lindholm. Blame Gulutzan all you want, but who's fault is it that didn't work? Johnny? Sean? Glenn? No, it's Sam's fault.

Bennett has never had sustained success on the 2nd line with Backlund and Tkachuk. Is he unable to play right wing?

The last time Bennett forced his way onto the 1st powerplay unit, he was wearing a 63.

I'm not out of patience with Bennett, I don't think he sucks, and I know people develop at different rates. I just don't think he's as good as we hoped he'd be. And that's okay.
When looking back at this draft there are maybe 6 players who have produced more then Bennett. In highsight that draft class is looking weak overall
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:52 PM   #8983
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When looking back at this draft there are maybe 6 players who have produced more then Bennett. In highsight that draft class is looking weak overall
There's 9 players with more total points then him (Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Larkin, Ehlers, Reinhart, Point, Arvidsson, Ekblad, Nylander).

But then there is Schmaltz, Tuch, Kase, Ritchie, Goldobin, Virtanen, Montour, Kapanen, Vrana, Labanc, Fiala, and I'm sure someone that I missed outproducing him this year.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:25 PM   #8984
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Insider trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...ottawa~1604193

Dorion tried to sell Duchene's agent on the future of the Senators
$, term, contract are all secondary to Duchene and Stone right now. They want to know how the Senators are going from one of the worst teams in the NHL to competitive team in a timeframe that suits Duchene and Stone.
Most of the focus by the Sens right now is to convience Duchene, but that could change through the week

Panarin and Stone are holding up the market on secondary players like Ferland

Even though the Flyers have won 8 straight games and are in the playoff race, more likely than not the Flyers will trade Simmonds for the right offer.

Florida did inquire about Bobrovsky but found out the price is too high when they can chase him as UFA.
Will check back on Feb 25 and if the price dropped they might pull the trigger

Quick not expected to be dealt before deadline
IF Quick gets traded more likely at the draft

Oilers to begin to reach out next week to start asking for permission from teams to talk to candidates


Friedman's 31 thoughts
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...er-nhl/sn-amp/

teams are already jockeying for an audience with Panarin when he starts fielding meetings during the courting period in June.

Brooks reported that the Panthers might trade for Bobrovsky before the trade deadline so they can offer him an 8 year deal (if they wait until FA they can only offer him 7)

Panthers will continue to clear room. Hoffman might be moved

If Jackets do trade Bobvrosky, do not be suprised if they take a run at Quick

Teams say they won't be able to talk to Panarin about a contract before trading him, but that might not matter since Panarin says he isn't interested in negotiating right now.

Sens need to know about Duchene and Stone's decisions soon as it will impact Dzingel's future and other decisions

Bergevin is watching the Ducks looking for forward depth. Says he won't give up futures so not likely going after the Ducks 'prime' assets.
May have also looked into Dallas forward Brett Ritchie

Friedman thinks Carl Hagelin would be a good fit in Buffalo

Flames have checked in on Zuccarello

Going to take a lot to pry Kreider out of the Rangers

teams are asking about Preds Eeli Tolvanen.
Preds could be looking for 2 forwards with Watson's return uncertain

Ducks are optimistic about being able to re-sign Silfverberg

Ducks GM Bob Murray is considering preforming "major surgery" on the team. Question is when he does it

Wings will not trade Kronwall unless he asks for the opportunity to chase a cup or the offer is something they must consider

could see the wings trade Howard and then re-sign him in the summer

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Old 02-05-2019, 05:28 PM   #8985
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My money is on the Preds landing Ferland. He always plays well against them and he always beats up their toughest guy in Watson.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:30 PM   #8986
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If FLA is looking to give Hoffman away batter up.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:30 PM   #8987
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My money is on the Preds landing Ferland. He always plays well against them and he always beats up their toughest guy in Watson.
I'm cool with that. Let WPG and NAS beat the crap out of each other.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:34 PM   #8988
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I wonder what the cost for Hoffman would be now?

He was traded for some pretty sad returns last summer with the controversy swirling, but he's on pace for 30+ goals and has a year left.
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I thought for sure Hoffman was going to be the price to negotiate early with a few blue jackets in the off season.
Jackets are asking too much from what i read. BT should be all over this imo. He has a year left on his contract.
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I hope the Matthews contract today puts to bed the idea of getting both Stone and Tkachuk on this team. It’s not happening. Tkachuks resigning will be interesting. He’s a good player but tbh I don’t believe in his ability to drive a line. I haven’t seen very much from him when he’s been split off from Backlund. Add to that his awful skating and I’m not sure what he is. Grest player or just a really good pp specialist? Not sure time will tell.
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I hope the Matthews contract today puts to bed the idea of getting both Stone and Tkachuk on this team. It’s not happening. Tkachuks resigning will be interesting. He’s a good player but tbh I don’t believe in his ability to drive a line. I haven’t seen very much from him when he’s been split off from Backlund. Add to that his awful skating and I’m not sure what he is. Grest player or just a really good pp specialist? Not sure time will tell.
When he's split off from backlund it's basically the Abyss. He's not playing top line and Jankowski is basically a plug when he's not killing penalties. Tkachuk is a dandy hockey player.
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:39 PM   #8992
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Great players can pull up lesser players. If he requires Backlund or to be on the top line to generate points he’s not worth 9-10 million. (Which is likely what a six plus year contract will take after today’s contract news)

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Old 02-05-2019, 07:25 PM   #8993
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Great players can pull up lesser players. If he requires Backlund or to be on the top line to generate points he’s not worth 9-10 million. (Which is likely what a six plus year contract will take after today’s contract news)
Tkachuk is the second best forward on this team. His mutually beneficial success with Backlund is not indicative of not being a line driver. Truly one man lines in the history of the NHL could probably be counted on one hand:

Mario Lemieux
Evgeni Malkin
Connor McDavid
Bobby Orr
Pavel Bure

after that, every player has a linemate they work or worked best with.
Kucherov and Point or Stamkos.
Gaudreau and Monahan and Lindholm.
Marner and Tavares or Matthews
Marchand and Bergeron or Krejci

If anything Backlund is the guy who doesn't belong in this conversation.
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There's 9 players with more total points then him (Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Larkin, Ehlers, Reinhart, Point, Arvidsson, Ekblad, Nylander).


But then there is Schmaltz, Tuch, Kase, Ritchie, Goldobin, Virtanen, Montour, Kapanen, Vrana, Labanc, Fiala, and I'm sure someone that I missed outproducing him this year.
So basically out of 150+ playera drafted - bennet is in the top 10% of the entire list.
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Sounds like it could be one of the more interesting deadlines in a while. Whether the Dlames
Move or not.
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Sounds like it could be one of the more interesting deadlines in a while. Whether the Dlames
Move or not.
hopefully, they'll slow their roll until the actual TDL day broadcasts!

some years, that show is painful to watch
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:07 PM   #8997
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I wonder what the cost for Hoffman would be now?

He was traded for some pretty sad returns last summer with the controversy swirling, but he's on pace for 30+ goals and has a year left.

I'd love to have him. It's his girlfriend that happens to be the problem. Have they broken up yet?
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I'd love to have him. It's his girlfriend that happens to be the problem. Have they broken up yet?
I think that whole issue may have been made up or not accurate.
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Tkachuk is the second best forward on this team. His mutually beneficial success with Backlund is not indicative of not being a line driver. Truly one man lines in the history of the NHL could probably be counted on one hand:

Mario Lemieux
Evgeni Malkin
Connor McDavid
Bobby Orr
Pavel Bure

after that, every player has a linemate they work or worked best with.
Kucherov and Point or Stamkos.
Gaudreau and Monahan and Lindholm.
Marner and Tavares or Matthews
Marchand and Bergeron or Krejci

If anything Backlund is the guy who doesn't belong in this conversation.
Sam Bennett’s best season was the one he played primarily with Backlund and Frolik. Backlund also got as many points back then without Tkachuk. If Tkachuk was that good you’d think Backlund would be seeing a bump. He’s not seen one. Backlund has also proven his ability to take dregs and have them score good numbers when lined up with him.

There is no reason that a sheltered Jankowski/Bennett/Tkachuk line shouldn’t be able to score points, yet they’ve been quite bad. Those players do have more offensive talent than the players Backlund gets when that switch is made, plus they’re not being put against top lines.

I like Tkachuk quite a lot but I think second best forward on this team is overstating it. I think not playing the PK and not taking the faceoffs puts him behind Lindholm for me. I can see the argument with Monahan though but as a center I think I’d put him in front as well. His skating is less of a liability and now that he’s healthy he is quite decent on faceoffs. So to me I’d place him as fourth best forward on the team.
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I think that whole issue may have been made up or not accurate.
Whether it's true or not, in my opinion, his presence would simply disrupt the blooming locker room chemistry of the Flames.

If I was one of the Flames players, I'd not be pleased to have Hoffman as my new teammate. No way. Distractions? Nada.

To each his own.
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