Wouldn’t be shocked at all of the top 4 went Power/Clarke/Hughes/Edvinsson, or whatever order. I know for sure Power will go 1 or, and Hughes or Edvinsson should be going to New Jersey. Anaheim is the wildcard, and they could very well pick up one of Hughes or Edvinsson to play alongside Drysdale. Or maybe they force Detroit to move up for one of the LD.
What I’m getting at with this is I think we can all agree that outside of Eklund and maybe Beniers, there isn’t a massive gap amongst the rest of the forwards within the top 10 forward selections.
Wouldn’t be shocked at all of the top 4 went Power/Clarke/Hughes/Edvinsson, or whatever order. I know for sure Power will go 1 or, and Hughes or Edvinsson should be going to New Jersey. Anaheim is the wildcard, and they could very well pick up one of Hughes or Edvinsson to play alongside Drysdale. Or maybe they force Detroit to move up for one of the LD.
What I’m getting at with this is I think we can all agree that outside of Eklund and maybe Beniers, there isn’t a massive gap amongst the rest of the forwards within the top 10 forward selections.
I suspect Beniers is actually behind all those guys and the only reason he’s ranked higher in any particular article is because it’s just not fun to have no forwards in the top 3.
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@Sandman have you done a write up on Sebastian Cossa? I've seen a few reviews that say he is moving up to the top half of the draft like Wallstedt. Is he worth it? Or is he still a 20's pick? I see Columbus drafting him with one of their late 1sts.
@Sandman have you done a write up on Sebastian Cossa? I've seen a few reviews that say he is moving up to the top half of the draft like Wallstedt. Is he worth it? Or is he still a 20's pick? I see Columbus drafting him with one of their late 1sts.
I can’t see another goalie supplanting Wallstedt as the first goalie taken, but he may not be waiting long after to walk to the podium. Just my opinion, but I could see him anywhere in the first after the 10th pick. I’ve read that he’s closer to 6’8” than his listed 6’6”, and that he tracks the puck at an NHL level. Technique and movements are quick and solid, and of course-he put up Wolf-like numbers. This is the kind of goalie scouts drool over, although they probably would have liked a bigger sample-size in his draft year than 19 games.
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the only thing with Coronato is that he is going to Harvard...
While, I don't worry about drafting kids that go to US colleges, Harvard has had a few players that went the UFA route after being drafted of late (Kerfoot, Vesey and Fox)...Most guys did end up signing with the team that drafted them, but not sure how many actually finished their 4 years.
the only thing with Coronato is that he is going to Harvard...
While, I don't worry about drafting kids that go to US colleges, Harvard has had a few players that went the UFA route after being drafted of late (Kerfoot, Vesey and Fox)...Most guys did end up signing with the team that drafted them, but not sure how many actually finished their 4 years.
This isn't typically an issue for players drafted in the top 20 or so.
I don't know the last time someone drafted 12th OA or higher went to UFA like that. It might be Blake Wheeler, which was 17 years ago.
Coronato should probably be NHL ready within 2 years. If not, that'll be fairly disappointing. Definitely at least by the third year. And that would still leave a year of wiggle room.
If he hadn't signed by the third year, it would be a time for a trade.
This isn't typically an issue for players drafted in the top 20 or so.
I don't know the last time someone drafted 12th OA or higher went to UFA like that. It might be Blake Wheeler, which was 17 years ago.
Coronato should probably be NHL ready within 2 years. If not, that'll be fairly disappointing. Definitely at least by the third year. And that would still leave a year of wiggle room.
If he hadn't signed by the third year, it would be a time for a trade.
True, I just mentioned it due to the Harvard connection.
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There's another YouTube channel which gets into this side a bit more. I think it's worth taking what the guy says with a huge grain of salt (he's pretty clearly very high on Lysell as a whole and spent a lot of time trying to defend his weaker stats), but he's dug out a lot of clips which (in my mind) showcase Lysell's skating better.
RW Fabian Lysell,5'10"172lbs (Frolunda HC J20, SWE): 11gp/3g/10a/13pts, 12PIM. Lysell finished 5th in p/gp with 1.18, just behind Marcus Almqvist (1.21), William Stromgren (1.29), Simon Robertsson (1.33), and Noah Ostlund (1.50,2022 draft eligible).His primary points per 60 rate playing in the U20 class was 3.5. His play earned him 26 games at the SHL level, where he played bottom-line minutes and put up 3pts-3rd for under-18 players. He also tied for first with Rosen in the U-18s with 9pts in 7 games. As some of us already know, this kid is fun to watch-he plays with high-level pace, and always seems to be in top gear. His skill hovers around the elite of his class-he can pull off moves in full flight or in tight spaces, and can easily weave through, or around traffic. He can dangle like Patrick Kane. More of a playmaker, he's a points-generator for himself and others, as dangerous off the cycle as off the rush, and good things always happen when he's in the offensive zone with the puck-and he seemingly has it on a string. He tries things that even most NHLers wouldn't be able to pull off.
Lysell is a loyal team player, with a good work ethic and brings energy. He's aggressive in 1-on-1 battles, and wins most of the time, despite his size. He can draw attackers to him, then hit the open teammates for opportunities-forces errors to create chances, and breaks down the other team in the offensive zone. Creative, with high-end vision, and his anticipation keeps him a few steps ahead of the play. His puck control is already elite, and he can connect with any pass you can dream of, sometimes through seams that nobody else sees. Controls the PP from the half wall. Tremendous stickhandler, with a bag of tricks-he can toe drag, or deke through traffic or the goalie. He can stickhandle, or change direction in a phone booth, and can play in tight traffic.
He's not a good skater, he's exceptional-his edgework is elite, he can turn on a dime. One of the top skaters in this draft. Blows around, or through coverage, and forces the D back, who don't want to look stupid. His teammates want the puck on his stick in transition, and he's equally as good in defensive transitions-his speed, anticpation, quick stick, and hockey sense aid him in thwarting rushes, and gaining the zone with control. Hustles hard on the backcheck. He could stand to shoot more, as he owns a good, hard wrister with a sneaky release. Lysell puts in hard work in the d-zone, with good positioning and an active stick-applies pressure to eliminate time and space. Simply turns defense into offense.
I think it might be safe to say that Lysell's game is more translatable to the NHL than most Europeans, as he doesn't require much time and space to operate. Like most players his size and age, he will need to get stronger-he can still be overpowered, or pushed off the puck-this will help at both ends of the rink, and will help with his next shortcoming, the power in his shot. He can shoot quickly and accurately, but that shot needs to be harder and heavier. He's not very physical, but that can be chalked up to style. His consistency waivers from time to time. He has to learn to play a bit more of a simple game, as he sometimes tries to do too much, or be too flashy, which can lead to errors, turnovers, and overskating the puck. Over time, I've heard whispers of a perceived attitude problem. This might possibly stem from a trade request he made, which was granted (from Frolunda to Lulea), saying he needed "a fresh start". Not sure if this is true, as sometimes perception is reality. I would caution anyone from comparing Lysell to Eklund, as the latter did most of his damage in the men's pro league, and the former struggled there (not a slight, most kids his age do), proving that Eklund's game is further advanced at this point. In terms of style, and not necessarily potential, he's often compared to Mitch Marner, or Pat Kane.
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C/LW Cole Sillinger,6'0"201lbs (Sioux Falls,USHL): 31gp/24g/22a/46pts,39PIM. 1st in scoring for Sioux Falls, despite playing 19 or more games less than some of his teammates. 4th in the USHL for p/gp, even though he played on one of the worst teams in the league, and one of the most offensively challenged. 9th in goals, despite playing at least 16 games less than any other player in the top-10- if he played 51 games, as the goals leader Matt Coronato did, the math would pro-rate Sillinger's goal total to 39, good for 2nd in goals. In 2019-20, he made a name for himself as a member of the Medicine Hat Tigers, narrowly missing out on WHL Rookie of the Year to Dylan Guenther, with 22g/31a/52pts in 48 games. He probably would've won if his season wasn't cut short by Covid, and a medical procedure unrelated to hockey. That total is the most points from an under-17 player for the Tigers in the last 35 years. If he played in the 'Dub this year, he would have huge numbers.
Sillinger might be the best natural goal scorer in this year's draft. He has an elite release, with a shot that just explodes off his stick-hard, heavy and accurate, already NHL quality. He can get that shot off from anywhere in the zone, or wherever the puck is in relation to his body-he doesn't have to rely on perfect shot mechanics. He has the soft hands to score on deflections or rebounds. His slapshot is a howitzer. He's always searching for open space, and surveying his options-he can slow a game down to find a crisp, accurate pass or pick a corner for a goal. He also has an innate ability to get open. Deception is one of his best weapons-he can manipulate defenders into making errors with fakes, subtle moves with his hands and feet, and no-look passes or shots. That, combined with his patience and vision help him to be a few steps ahead of the play, meaning he doesn't need to blow past the opposition.
Which brings me to the next thing-skating. Sillinger has been called quick and fast, but he lacks explosiveness and perhaps quality top speed, which is probably why he's not being talked about in the top-5 of the draft. He has some power in those blades, and many say the tougher criticism is overblown. He has improved his speed, edges, and agility, and obviously did a lot of work last summer. He can make quick directional changes to evade checkers, and has the lateral agility to find lanes. Sillinger has supreme vision and IQ. He drives the offense, and bends the twine either by putting the puck in by himself, or by passing it off. He's also a great playmaker-he finds lanes, and threads the needle through traffic. His off-puck movement and desire to attack open ice creates opportunities. His strong base makes him hard to move in battle areas, like a bull on skates. He'll fight along the boards or in front of the net, and he usually wins. Uncommonly strong, with good puck-protection and balance, and strong on the puck as well. Edgy and physical, he throws his weight around in all 3 zones, and contributes a great deal away from the puck with his physicality, hockey sense, and sublime awareness. Maintains control of the puck through traffic, and can drive through the opposition. He's a tenacious forechecker, who pressures hard to create turnovers. Defensively, the effort is there-he will block shots, get into lanes, and bring it physically. This is another area where his hockey sense helps him. He uses body and stick to break up transition, and his IQ helps him to be a valuable contributor in all 3 zones. His coach describes him as "stacked", and he's known to take pride in his fitness. He loves the game, and knows what his responsibilities are in order to be a winner.
Obviously, some work in the skating department is warranted, but the mechanics seem to be there. Sillinger could stand to fine tune some of his defensive contributions, and has some room to grow in this area-sometimes he leaves the zone early to transition, and leaves his teammates a man down. There are also times where he could use his teammates more, as he tries to do too much by himself-which never flies in the NHL. Based on his style, perceived skating deficiencies, and his D minus 1 year production, he has been compared to Draisaitl (64gp/21g/37a/58pts in his D minus 1 year), and RNH (67gp/24g/41a/65pts). He has been heavily compared to Mark Scheifle as well, who's mobility was questioned in his draft year.
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C/LW Mason McTavish,6'2"207lbs (Peterborough, OHL): With the OHL shutdown, McT went overseas to play for EHC Olten in Switzerland's second tier pro-league, and aquitted himself quite well, with 9g/2a/11pts in 13 games. Even more impressive was his contribution to their playoff run, with 7pts in 4 games-5th on the team despite only playing 4 of 10 games. In 2019-20, he had 29g/13a/42pts in 57 games for OHL's Peterborough Petes. I became a believer after watching him Captain Team Canada to gold at the U-18s-he showed more than just size and a good shot, he showed off his skill, skating, leadership, and desire. He achieved 11pts in 7 games, 3rd on the team, and tied for fifth in the tourney, among some very good talent.
You know when a shot misses the net, hits the glass and makes that loud, scary, hollow noise that tells you how hard, fast and heavy it was? That was my first experience with McT. His array of shots are sick-bomb of a wrister, ridiculous slapper, or hard, heavy one-timer. He even has a freakish backhander. He has the sneaky ability to always get in position in high-danger areas, and has silky smooth hands for tips and rebounds. His huge frame is great for standing in front of the net and screening the goalie. Battles for pucks all over the ice, and isn't afraid of the dirty areas-why would be be? He's built for it. He can routinely bowl other players over, and doesn't need to build up speed to do it. Very solid and strong, leans into defenders, attacks the net, and makes things happen every shift, regardless of if he scores or not. He looks like a Grizzly Bear on skates, and has the strength and aggressiveness to match. He's strong on the puck, and plays a heavy game with bite in all 3 zones. Aside from his size and shot, McTavish is also skilled and intelligent. His fantastic playmaking ability and vision was on display in the U-18s, and that hockey sense makes him useful in all situations. He's a great passer, and can thread the needle through traffic, and tight spaces. Also exhibits good stickhandling skills. He's the complete package offensively.
McTavish demonstrates skill in transition, using his powerful stride and quick stick to push play-when a turnover occurs, he can start the play back up the ice with his feet or hands. He's a great leader, as he showed in the tourney-he was always talking on the ice, and on the bench. In the defensive zone, he supports the troops down low, and forces the opposition to the outside-closes down lanes, and blocks shots. He killed penalties in Switzerland, and shows a real knack for winning faceoffs. He skates well for a guy his size-it's considered a strength. It looks lumbering and choppy, but he can generate surprising power from his stride. Still needs work though-he seems to move ok at top speed, but needs more explosiveness, and better acceleration. Much of this will be improved as he gets stronger, as the consensus is that he's not NHL-ready, and still needs time to develop. Defensively, there's room to grow-he sometimes gets a little lost, and floats a bit. The effort in the D zone, compared to that in the O zone is unbalanced. McTavish is projected as a top-6 forward-I think he's a pretty safe pick.
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It is sad to look at our system and prospects and accept the fact that it doesn't matter who or what position is drafted, unless it is a small LW, it will fill a massive hole in the system.
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It is sad to look at our system and prospects and accept the fact that it doesn't matter who or what position is drafted, unless it is a small LW, it will fill a massive hole in the system.
Over the last 5 years the Flames have graduated a tonne of prospects.
There are a lot of young impactful players on the team.
You can't negative if you want, but the Flames have done quite well in the last 5 years building from within.
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Lysell please and thank you; we need a high end and highly skilled right shooting forward and he fits that bill perfectly. Also helps that he is Swedish; will fit in naturally here!!
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Highly skilled forward with impressive technical skills and an amazing release. Scores a lot of goals and is a loyal team player, Anders Eriksén (HC) 2020
There's another YouTube channel which gets into this side a bit more. I think it's worth taking what the guy says with a huge grain of salt (he's pretty clearly very high on Lysell as a whole and spent a lot of time trying to defend his weaker stats), but he's dug out a lot of clips which (in my mind) showcase Lysell's skating better.
I watched all his relevant videos to the potential players in the Flames range. He breaks them down nicely. Kind 9f filled the void that DraftDynasty left.
