The 2016 US American Election Thread

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Drak

When you continuously say and do the deplorable things that Trump does, you are unfit to be president.

If only Trump kept his mouth shut over the years and wasn't such a blowhard he could have been President. He is essentially Bill 2.0 except that Bill was much more secretive and didn't brag.

[PostandIn]

Once more, how the hell are they going to do the Alfred E Smith dinner? This is shaping up to be the grimmest, most awkward, event ever. Seriously, what would Clinton actually joke about with such a wretch of a human being on the other side of the podium? Forced fornication jokes? Say what you like about Romney and McCain but they are both good human beings.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

If only Trump kept his mouth shut over the years and wasn't such a blowhard he could have been President. He is essentially Bill 2.0 except that Bill was much more secretive and didn't brag.

No. He really isn't. Just like Hillary and Trump aren't two equally bad choices, the only way Trump is 'Bill 2.0' is if you're referring to this one.

[Coach]

My favorite part was where he couldn't figure out how to open the RV door.

[calgarygeologist]

Ryan has cancelled for tomorrow.

[Alpine Fisher]

I want Trump replaced with Wolf Blitzer.
Wolf has America's best interests in mind

[Senator Clay Davis]

^^Didn't pull his endorsement though. Neither has virtually everyone else. Probably won't till the next round of internals hurt them badly.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by troutman

Bachmann accusing Clinton of leaking story to Washington Post on Hardball.

How does this woman still get media attention? No matter who leaked the story, it's an appalling story.

I was watching some Anderson Cooper 360 and they're going heavy on this story, playing the Trump clip while only bleeping out the f-bomb, but none of the other vulgarity. Understandably, CNN is berating him for it.

I was curious and I turned to Fox News, Megyn Kelly is on, and she is visibly infuriated and disgusted. They bleeped the vulgarity there, but Kelly ensured that her audience was aware that "grab her by the *****" was the "p-word." Even her full set of commentators are agreeing that this is a mess.

When Fox News thinks you went too far insulting women...that's a sign.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

No. He really isn't. Just like Hillary and Trump aren't two equally bad choices, the only way Trump is 'Bill 2.0' is if you're referring to this one.

Bill has been cheating and using women since 1975 (probably earlier) and that all finally caught up with him when he was in the White House. Bill is obviously smarter and more likeable but in terms of respecting woman Bill and Donald likely aren't far removed from each other.

[MarchHare]

@JohnAvlon
Character is what you do when nobody’s watching. This is Trump sober, mid-day, with someone he barely knows, while wearing a mic.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by troutman

Many Republicans are openly seeking a resignation tonight.

This is a blood bath.

That's not a good thing for the democrats though. He need to stay on the ticket.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Bill has been cheating and using women since 1975 (probably earlier) and that all finally caught up with him when he was in the White House. Bill is obviously smarter and more likeable but in terms of respecting woman Bill and Donald likely aren't far removed from each other.

1) Bill is still not running against him for President. Regardless of Bill's history, he is not the Clinton on the ticket.

2) If treating women terribly, speaking of them terribly, etc was Trump's only problem, sure he and Bill Clinton could be compared. While Bill Clinton's history with women is sketchy at the absolute best--he has done many other good things for people. He has numerous flaws, but he has lived his life in public service, attempting to do good for others. Trump has lived his life attempting to make life better for himself and maybe his kids, as long as they don't get out of line.

This current scandal is just one of a myriad of reasons Trump shouldn't be allowed near the Oval Office. It's not even the first reason this week.

[Flabbibulin]

This Kayleigh McEnany on CNN would defend Trump if he ate her children.

[photon]

Trump won't campaign tomorrow in Wisconsin

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Drak

That's not a good thing for the democrats though. He need to stay on the ticket.

It's too late to do anything

[Senator Clay Davis]

We have our winner for lede of the election.

JILL HARTH’S first concern with Donald Trump’s hands wasn’t that they were small. It’s that they were everywhere.

Harth and her longtime boyfriend were in meetings with Trump to forge a business partnership. “He was relentless,” Harth recalled in an interview, describing how on Dec. 12, 1992, he took the couple to dinner and a club — and then situated himself beside Harth and ran his hands up her skirt, to her crotch. “I didn’t know how to handle it. I would go away from him and say I have to go to the restroom. It was the escape route.”

They were operating a small Florida company called American Dream Enterprise that ran a “calendar girl” beauty contest, an automobile show, a music competition and other events. They had been together for 13 years and were negotiating with Trump to hold the events in his Atlantic City casinos as a way to bring all of them more revenue.

Trump dazzled them with his bold and confident vision of turning their events into huge moneymakers. So, Harth says, she was in a bind familiar to many women: She didn’t want to risk offending a potential partner and benefactor, but neither did she want to be pawed.

The first sign of trouble came the day before the evening groping, in an initial business meeting in which, Harth and Houraney say, Trump spent the time asking about the breasts of the beauty contestants — real or enhanced? — and staring at Harth, then 30. At one point he asked Houraney, “Are you sleeping with her?” Houraney explained awkwardly that they were a couple, but Trump was unfazed

“You know, there’s going to be a problem,” Trump told Houraney, according to a 1997 sexual harassment lawsuit Harth filed against him. “I’m very attracted to your girlfriend.”

On Jan. 24, 1993, Harth and Houraney went to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida for a contract-signing celebration, bringing along some “calendar girls” at Trump’s request. He offered Harth a tour of the estate and then pulled her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka.

“I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he’s pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me,” Harth told me. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.” Harth says she was desperately protesting, and finally managed to run out of the room and find the group again. She and Houraney left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.

Some of the calendar girls stayed, and the sexual harassment lawsuit says Trump showed up uninvited in the predawn hours in the bedroom of one of the young women; she kicked him out but was shaken. When contacted, the woman declined to speak about the experience, and I’m not naming her here.

Trump was then with Marla Maples, who was pregnant that spring with his daughter Tiffany, but this didn’t constrain him. He took an intense interest in the calendar girls, pursuing some and rejecting others, Harth says, adding that he had an aversion to black contestants and made derogatory comments about them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/op...?smid=tw-share

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

1) Bill is still not running against him for President. Regardless of Bill's history, he is not the Clinton on the ticket.

2) If treating women terribly, speaking of them terribly, etc was Trump's only problem, sure he and Bill Clinton could be compared. While Bill Clinton's history with women is sketchy at the absolute best--he has done many other good things for people. He has numerous flaws, but he has lived his life in public service, attempting to do good for others. Trump has lived his life attempting to make life better for himself and maybe his kids, as long as they don't get out of line.

This current scandal is just one of a myriad of reasons Trump shouldn't be allowed near the Oval Office. It's not even the first reason this week.

I can see this battle for the White House getting really ugly this week. Trump's campaign just has to start hitting Hillary on her handling and criticism of the woman that Bill has had relations with. She fights for women's rights but she has a long history of battling and disparaging the woman that Bill abused.

This final month of the election could be the ugliest of any election.

[Parallex]

It really does feel like this is the straw that's going to break the proverbial back doesn't it. Just the gut feeling I'm having.

[Drak]

Surprise!

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

I want Trump replaced with Wolf Blitzer.
Wolf has America's best interests in mind

Is that really the best you've got? You can do better