2025 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[cross16]

Schneider deserves to get ripped for the decision but to be fair I think a bigger issue is how this bullpen was built. Sure we say go to Hoffman but Hoffman has had his struggles too. I’m not convinced you get a Zero from him there.
He was 100% the better call but a big issue is this is a poorly built bullpen that had an obvious need at the deadline and Atkins did nothing. They should have had a guy for a spot like this.

On a plus side we’ve seen how momentum carries little weight in this series

[Jiggy_12]

I’ve never seen a guy with less of a mound presence than Brendon Little. No intensity, no intimidation, always looks afraid.

I’d love to face that meatball as a batter.

Jim Halpert up there

[Inferno]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1979350653479850334

[browna]

Jays have a chance still for sure, but how much confidence can they have in the manager making the right decision going forward? On any decision. As I said, if they win, it’s in spite of him, not because of him.

Schneider has put this team, by himself, behind the eight ball and now there is no margin for error.

If Hoffman loses or Dominguez, fine. But Schenider tries to be cute and smart and he may have sabotaged this season.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Schneider always has to make a dumbass pitching decision that sewers the chances of the Jays winning.

Jays now have to win two games in a row at home. That's definitely doable, but the momentum swing he handed the Mariners with that decision, and the downer it has to be for the clubhouse is gonna be tough to overcome.

Jays have been resilient since May. So gotta keep tapping in that to survive.

I don’t think momentum actually matters to game to game in baseball
But the mariners get two chances to end it

[Manhattanboy]

Missed opportunities are hard to take in sports and life generally. Sucks.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don’t think momentum actually matters to game to game in baseball
But the mariners get two chances to end it

Ya agree. Team won 2 of 3 in Seattle with their backs against the wall.

Winning both in Toronto very doable.

[TBone290]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Oh well, positives:

We were down 2-0, only 3-2 now. Technically won the series in Seattle and need to win 2 at home.

No more mistakes. Have to be mistake-free now.

That certainly is the positive. But damn. It's how close they were to taking 3. Well, on to Sunday to show what they're made of.

[howard_the_duck]

Schneider pressed all the right buttons in game 4. And I have come around on him. But Little there is just indefensible.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don’t think momentum actually matters to game to game in baseball
But the mariners get two chances to end it

Exactly, at this stage of the season every game may as well be a coin flip.

We went from 75% chance at advancing to a 25% chance, maybe slightly higher due to home field.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah it's stupid from Schneider bit the bigger issue is there is really nobody you trust there.

He puts Hoffman in and Raleigh hits a homer off him and people will question why he let Releigh see him back to back nights.

The mistake was probably going to Varland too early and then you only really had Hoffman left as a leverage arm in the important moments. Still should have been Hoffman in the game.

Honestly I might have went to Fisher before Little, at least Fisher went in a big moment against the Yankees and shut them down vs Judge and Bellinger

[browna]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don’t think momentum actually matters to game to game in baseball
But the mariners get two chances to end it

I agree I don’t think it does either. But now you have no margin for error thank to the manager and a dressing room that’s probably lost some faith in the manager to make the right decision.
It takes a lot to get to this point. I have said for months they probably wouldn’t have gotten this far if they had to play the WC series. To have your manager make a completely assinine decision at the most critical point in the season, 2 innings from having an elimination game to get to the WS, has to demoralize the team, if only slightly, but enough.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah it's stupid from Schneider bit the bigger issue is there is really nobody you trust there.

He puts Hoffman in and Raleigh hits a homer off him and people will question why he let Releigh see him back to back nights.

Honestly I might have went to Fisher before Little, at least Fisher went in a big moment against the Yankees and shut them down vs Judge and Bellinger

Hoffman is still your best and has looked good in the postseason. If Raleigh hits you there, then I think I’m with you in that you just don’t have the horses.

But Little might be their 4th best option in that spot.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah it's stupid from Schneider bit the bigger issue is there is really nobody you trust there.

He puts Hoffman in and Raleigh hits a homer off him and people will question why he let Releigh see him back to back nights.

The mistake was probably going to Varland too early and then you only really had Hoffman left as a leverage arm in the important moments. Still should have been Hoffman in the game.

Honestly I might have went to Fisher before Little, at least Fisher went in a big moment against the Yankees and shut them down vs Judge and Bellinger

Agreed but literally any one else was a better choice

[keenan87]

I dont even regularly watch baseball and I am sad.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah i was trying to convince myself but I still don't get it, I still don't get it being Little you go to there.

His playoff numbers before tonight weren't terrible, but the actual performances have been so shakey that I have no idea how you think that's a spot for him

[Jason14h]

The nonsense was last night burning Fluharty up multiple runs . That’s when you use Little, or Lauer

Why is Lauer on this roster over Nance who was lights out ? If you aren’t goi g to ever use him ? You have Bassit as the emergency long guy

I just can’t fathom a world needing 6 out and a 60 hr guy coming up and putting out Little

Now - I have zero faith in Hoffman either but if he blows it you go down with your “star” closer . He’s paid to get those outs.

[FireGilbert]

[browna]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah it's stupid from Schneider bit the bigger issue is there is really nobody you trust there.

He puts Hoffman in and Raleigh hits a homer off him and people will question why he let Releigh see him back to back nights.

The mistake was probably going to Varland too early and then you only really had Hoffman left as a leverage arm in the important moments. Still should have been Hoffman in the game.

Honestly I might have went to Fisher before Little, at least Fisher went in a big moment against the Yankees and shut them down vs Judge and Bellinger

You have closers. Use them. Not play cute when you have a chance to be one more game to get to the WS.

“Little has been our best pitcher in big spots” he just said. 6.88 era in last 7 weeks for Little. Wanted to “have guys see someone new”. Garbage.

Again, how can anyone on the roster trust their managers decision making when he’s making silly moves like this in the biggest games in a decade.

[kevman]

I feel bad for Little, bad situation to be put in for.