09-26-2023, 07:42 AM
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#8881
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
He's from Canada.
Could be worse I suppose. They could trot out some actual nazi and give him a standing applause in parliament.
Darn.
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On a scale from 1-10 how clever did this sound in your head before you wrote it?
Genuinely curious.
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09-26-2023, 07:42 AM
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#8882
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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We voted for a corrupt, incompetent government and we got one.
I wouldn’t be trying to turn this into Zelinsky or anyone else’s fault. Liberals should apologize for what they called a “deeply embarrassing” incident and try to move on to their next #### up.
To try and shift the blame is absurd.
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09-26-2023, 07:56 AM
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#8885
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Looooooooooooooch
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How do we know that the speaker himself wasn’t actually a Russian plant and part of a long game to sow further discord in Canadian politics?? They’re playing 4D chess with us here!
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09-26-2023, 08:06 AM
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#8886
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by rubecube
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...i-ss-soldiers/
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President Vlodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish, condemned the embroidery marches, which had been conducted legally.
“We categorically condemn any manifestation of propaganda of totalitarian regimes, in particular the National Socialist, and attempts to revise truth about World War II,” he said Friday in a statement.
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Zelensky has openly condemned glorifying the Galicia division.
I mean what is he going to do at parliament where he was invited, run a protest right before a monumental speech? If he caught on, he would have put Trudeau aside in a private conservation later.
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09-26-2023, 08:07 AM
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#8887
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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I’m afraid the Liberals don’t seem equipped to play Uno, nevermind 4D chess.
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09-26-2023, 08:10 AM
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#8888
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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09-26-2023, 08:11 AM
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#8889
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Azure
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From the tweet, here's the full link.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230925...g-post_21.html
Well worth reading. War is complicated, and it seems so was his life. While it's easy to write him off as a Nazi, reading
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Arrests continued in the city and in the villages, and people - "enemies of the people" - were taken to Siberia. This did not pass by both the schools and the bursa. One Saturday, the director of the Tkachuk school called three tenth-grade students from the bursa, and no one saw them again.
Fear of the unknown enveloped us and the entire nation. The terror of Moscow Communism raged over the Berezhansk land. The NKVD had eyes and ears everywhere. Friend to friend and brother to brother could not speak sincerely for fear of betrayal. The worst thing is that the viper who terrorized us spoke our native language. Each time, a larger part of the population became "enemies of the people".
At school, we had to sing songs of praise to our executioners, and the monthly wall newspapers that each class had to publish praised Father Stalin and the Communist Party to the heavens. In July 1941, the German army occupied
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So was he a Nazi, or did he choose to fight with the enemy of his enemy? I really hope the press actually sits and talks with the guy so we can see this as an opportunity to hear that war is messy, and lines are fuzzy. And hopefully the real press, before Ezra starts in on the guy, whips his audience into a frenzy and has them spray painting swastikas on his house.
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09-26-2023, 08:15 AM
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#8890
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
So was he a Nazi, or did he choose to fight with the enemy of his enemy? I really hope the press actually sits and talks with the guy so we can see this as an opportunity to hear that war is messy, and lines are fuzzy. And hopefully the real press, before Ezra starts in on the guy, whips his audience into a frenzy and has them spray painting swastikas on his house.
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09-26-2023, 08:18 AM
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#8891
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Originally Posted by Firebot
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...i-ss-soldiers/
Zelensky has openly condemned glorifying the Galicia division.
I mean what is he going to do at parliament where he was invited, run a protest right before a monumental speech? If he caught on, he would have put Trudeau aside in a private conservation later.
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The speaker and the Liberals’ process of checks and balances for who gets to enter the house are obviously at fault for making this situation possible in the first place, but I don’t know that it’s particularly hard to imagine the idea of someone hearing someone else introduced as a Nazi and… not clapping?
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09-26-2023, 08:18 AM
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#8892
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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09-26-2023, 08:21 AM
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#8893
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Norm!
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Poland's education minister wants him extradited.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yar...ium%3Dsharebar
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Poland's education minister says he has "taken steps" to effect the extradition of Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old Ukrainian Canadian, to Poland after it emerged that the veteran served in the Nazi SS Galizien formation during the Second World War.
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09-26-2023, 08:52 AM
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#8894
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
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Nobody knew he was here or what? Assuming he didn’t change his name, like… what the hell?
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09-26-2023, 08:53 AM
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#8895
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...i-ss-soldiers/
Zelensky has openly condemned glorifying the Galicia division.
I mean what is he going to do at parliament where he was invited, run a protest right before a monumental speech? If he caught on, he would have put Trudeau aside in a private conservation later.
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This is what I get for trying to have right-wing commentators on my twitter feed so that I don't end up in an echo-chamber. 
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09-26-2023, 09:20 AM
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#8897
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Rota can leave.... and be the next Nazi hunter! good job outing one living right under our noses!
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09-26-2023, 09:31 AM
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#8898
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
From the tweet, here's the full link.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230925...g-post_21.html
Well worth reading. War is complicated, and it seems so was his life. While it's easy to write him off as a Nazi, reading
So was he a Nazi, or did he choose to fight with the enemy of his enemy? I really hope the press actually sits and talks with the guy so we can see this as an opportunity to hear that war is messy, and lines are fuzzy. And hopefully the real press, before Ezra starts in on the guy, whips his audience into a frenzy and has them spray painting swastikas on his house. |
Yes to be fair, the choice was between Stalinist Russia (whose collectivist policies resulted in the deaths of between 3 and 5 million Ukrainians in the early 1930s - either intentionally or through incompetence) and the Germans. Many Ukrainians chose to back the Germans, not necessarily because they supported Nazism, but because they wanted to be rid of Stalin and Russia.
It is a grey area. Russians and their sympathizers would have you believe anyone who fought with the Germans was a hardcore Nazi, which isn’t true.
The problem in this case is the involvement with the Waffen SS. They weren’t the Gestapo and they did fight as regular military units, but they also committed more than their fair share of war crimes against civilians.
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09-26-2023, 09:34 AM
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#8899
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I find it hard to believe that people brought before the house, especially in front of all the MPs, aren't vetted in some way by RCMP or just anyone on the hill. I don't understand how this happens. People with I love Canadian Oil T-shirts aren't allowed in the building. Seems like a massive security issue.
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09-26-2023, 09:35 AM
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#8900
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by madmike
Yes to be fair, the choice was between Stalinist Russia (whose collectivist policies resulted in the deaths of between 3 and 5 million Ukrainians in the early 1930s - either intentionally or through incompetence) and the Germans. Many Ukrainians chose to back the Germans, not necessarily because they supported Nazism, but because they wanted to be rid of Stalin and Russia.
It is a grey area. Russians and their sympathizers would have you believe anyone who fought with the Germans was a hardcore Nazi, which isn’t true.
The problem in this case is the involvement with the Waffen SS. They weren’t the Gestapo and they did fight as regular military units, but they also committed more than their fair share of war crimes against civilians.
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Certainly. I guess him being 16 and thinking back to my decisions at 16...well a lot of them were not great.
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